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Interesting unicode characters... - ファブリス - 2007-07-09
Funny, I was playing with random unicode values until I found those characters:
You can type the unicode html entity in a webpage like this followed by four hexadecimal digits: &#xNNNN;
For example ㈆ gives ㈆ (but not in the forum since html is not allowed, you have to copy/paste the character itself if you want to post it here).
3200-320f has symbols in parentheses, no idea what those are :
㈁ ㈂ ㈃ ㈄ ㈅ ㈆ ㈊ ㈌ ㈏
3300+ has quadruplets of katakana that look like translations of other symbols:
㌁ ㌂ ㌃ ㌄ ㌅ ㌆ ㌊ ㌌ ㌏
㌑ ㌒ ㌓ ㌔ ㌕ ㌖ ㌚ ㌜ ㌟
Have you seen this in Japanese material somewhere ?
Interesting unicode characters... - Katsuo - 2007-07-09
I think 3200-320f are Hangul (Korean characters).
I've seen the katakana combinations in newspapers and magazines occasionally. I guess they're used to save space.
Interesting unicode characters... - Megaqwerty - 2007-07-09
Yeah, the former are isolated hangul (jamo?).
But what are the grouped katakana? Are those combinations so common that they warrant a place in Unicode?
Interesting unicode characters... - dilandau23 - 2007-07-09
In your Japanese IME on a (Microsoft system anyway) you can access all of that and more with "きごう"
Interesting unicode characters... - johnzep - 2007-07-09
I guess it's useful to be able to say, I bought 10㍑ of gas.
Interesting unicode characters... - ファブリス - 2007-07-10
dilandau23, do you know of a complete reference somewhere on all those IME "codes" ?
ps: they should have replaced those with Japanese-made kanji, imho.
Interesting unicode characters... - dilandau23 - 2007-07-10
Do you mean something like this?
or like this
or this.
I just found those by doing a Google search for (記号 意味) and (記号 IME).
Also I think there is an explanation to the left when selecting the character in the IME itself for a lot of them.
Edit: Grammar mistake
Interesting unicode characters... - ファブリス - 2007-07-10
Thanks dilandau, I searched before but I didn't think of searching in japanese; super!
Somehow without thinking about it further I thought the IME was only for the non-Japanese computers.
Interesting unicode characters... - Ricardo - 2007-07-10
You can find some information about this on Unihan.org:
Unihan Index for U+3200 through U+32FF (with images)
Unihan Index for U+3200 through U+32FF (utf-8)
Unihan Index for U+3300 through U+33FF (with images)
Unihan Index for U+3300 through U+33FF (utf-8)
The block of characters above is before the CJK Unified Ideographs Extension A (U+3400 through U+4DB5), whatever that means.
You might want to check the standard for more details.
Interesting unicode characters... - dilandau23 - 2007-07-10
ファブリス Wrote:Thanks dilandau, I searched before but I didn't think of searching in japanese; super!No problem, I wasn't really sure which you wanted, that is why I listed the three of them. I just looked at my post and I thought it may have seemed a bit curt. Not my intention I assure you. Hope one of them answered your question.
Somehow without thinking about it further I thought the IME was only for the non-Japanese computers.
Interesting unicode characters... - Rachael - 2008-01-24
Isn't there one that makes a heart?
Interesting unicode characters... - JimmySeal - 2008-01-24
None that I know of, but there are stars: ☆★
Interesting unicode characters... - uberstuber - 2008-01-24
♥ Is this what you're looking for? I don't know how to make it with the IME though.
Interesting unicode characters... - Jarvik7 - 2008-01-24
ハート makes the black/white hearts, at least on OSX.
☃ is easily the most awesome character though.
Interesting unicode characters... - nac_est - 2008-01-24
Actually, I've wanted to be able to make all those cool Japanese smileys for a long time, but I still can't figure out how to type those special characters, like that Russian letter here: （ ?Д｀）
Also all those different accents and math/greek symbols: （?・ω・｀）Σ(゜д゜;) (*≧▽≦)
Is there a fast way to do that (apart from looking for them on the character map)?
EDIT: one type of accent shows up as a "?" here.
Interesting unicode characters... - CharleyGarrett - 2008-01-24
I found dilandau23's 3rd link (in reply #7 above) to be the most helpful, I think. It's just a matter of "can I remember this stuff when I want to?"
Interesting unicode characters... - Jarvik7 - 2008-01-24
nac_est Wrote:Actually, I've wanted to be able to make all those cool Japanese smileys for a long time, but I still can't figure out how to type those special characters, like that Russian letter here: （ ?Д｀）They are not that hard to remember since the word that generates them is just the Japanese name for the symbol. eg. Sigma -> しぐま -> Σ, snowman -> ゆきだるま -> ☃
Also all those different accents and math/greek symbols: （?・ω・｀）Σ(゜д゜(*≧▽≦)
Is there a fast way to do that (apart from looking for them on the character map)?
EDIT: one type of accent shows up as a "?" here.
However people on 2ch etc do not manually enter them into their posts. There are custom dictionary files you can download and add into your IME whereby you just have to type in (for example) わらう and get a list of different smiling/laughing kaomoji, along with all the choices you'd normally get.
Interesting unicode characters... - uberstuber - 2008-01-24
I guess SCIM (for linux) isn't as complete as windows' IME (T__T)
I can't get ハート、雪だるま, etc.
btw, what is this character called in Japanese?: д
Interesting unicode characters... - nac_est - 2008-01-24
Jarvik, thanks for the tip. Unfortunately I'm using Ubuntu so, as uberstuber says, those methods won't work. But I'm sure there must be a way. I'll keep on looking.
Interesting unicode characters... - hknamida - 2008-01-24
I'm on a Mac, and I can get the ☆★ and ☃ to work, but not the ハート. ._.
Edit: Disregard that. I can in fact make the hats... err.. hearts, but they don't seem to show up correctly here. ♡♥
Interesting unicode characters... - Jarvik7 - 2008-01-24
hknamida Wrote:I'm on a Mac, and I can get the ☆★ and ☃ to work, but not the ハート. ._.They show up just fine on my .
Edit: Disregard that. I can in fact make the hats... err.. hearts, but they don't seem to show up correctly here. ♡♥
Interesting unicode characters... - Jarvik7 - 2008-01-24
uberstuber Wrote:I guess SCIM (for linux) isn't as complete as windows' IME (T__T)Just did a quick google and found this:
I can't get ハート、雪だるま, etc.
btw, what is this character called in Japanese?: д
「ω」「Д」「∀」を入力したければ、「おーむ」「でー」「すうがく」（「たーんえー」）と入力して変換すればいいわけです。
However it seems that those are MS-IME only, they don't work with Kotoeri (OSX).
You might try importing the MS-IME dictionary file into SCIM, if it supports such a thing〠
Interesting unicode characters... - Kieron - 2008-01-25
uberstuber Wrote:I guess SCIM (for linux) isn't as complete as windows' IME (T__T)Anthy has a 2ch dictionary, but it doesn't seem to be quite the same. For example, I can get a ☆ out of it by typing きゃは, but I'm not sure how to get the hearts or the snowman.
I can't get ハート、雪だるま, etc.
I also don't know how you're supposed to enable it normally, since I can only read about 3% of the documentation, but this worked:
1. (as root) edit /etc/anthy/diclist and add "2ch.t"
2. (also as root) run "update-anthy-dics"
3. log out, then back in
All sorts of fascinating things show up then under あまー, or はあはあ.
Interesting unicode characters... - Rachael - 2008-01-25
ハート doesn't work on mine.
Oh well. ☆ does, though.
Interesting unicode characters... - uberstuber - 2008-01-30
I also don't know how you're supposed to enable it normally, since I can only read about 3% of the documentation, but this worked:
1. (as root) edit /etc/anthy/diclist and add "2ch.t"
2. (also as root) run "update-anthy-dics"
3. log out, then back in
I followed this:
http://peace-pact-2007.blogspot.com/2007/08/scim-anthy.html