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use of iteration mark in words like 時々 - fugu68 - 2010-10-11
I'm wondering about the stylistic differences between 時々and 時時, 個々and 個個 and so on.
I'm starting to use monolingual dictionaries more these days, and they -- certainly the Daijirin -- seem to prefer the second form (full character written twice) in their headwords, which I find surprising.
Also, what do the Japanese call the iteration mark itself? I've seen 踊り字: is that the best word to use for it?
use of iteration mark in words like 時々 - Asriel - 2010-10-11
In my experience, 時々 etc. are used outside of dictionaries. Dictionaries like to use the 時時 one for some reason. Can't seem to find just 々 in them though...?
As for 々, I always just type "おなじ" when I want to write it, but edict calls it くりかえし, おなじ、おなじく、のま、どうのじてん(同の字点）
I guess I didn't really help out a whole lot, but that's what i got...
use of iteration mark in words like 時々 - harhol - 2010-10-11
My EPWING 5th Edition Kenkyūsha dictionary doesn't recognise '時時', '個個', etc.
use of iteration mark in words like 時々 - pm215 - 2010-10-11
Hmm, I'd not noticed before but you're right that the J-J dictionaries seem to dislike the repeat mark. GG5 (J-E) does use it, though. Wikipedia lists a pile of synonyms for it. The JIS standard name is apparently "繰返し記号".
Also, while I was wandering around wikipedia I found this cool punctuation mark you've probably never heard of: 〽 , the 庵点（いおりてん）.
use of iteration mark in words like 時々 - fugu68 - 2010-10-11
harhol Wrote:My EPWING 5th Edition Kenkyūsha dictionary doesn't recognise '時時', '個個', etc.That's quite true - but the monolingual dicts (both 大辞林 and 大辞泉) seem to prefer the 時時 variants, for some reason.
use of iteration mark in words like 時々 - Katsuo - 2010-10-11
記号の読み方辞典. This dictionary is useful for finding names of symbols.
use of iteration mark in words like 時々 - yudantaiteki - 2010-10-11
pm215 Wrote:Also, while I was wandering around wikipedia I found this cool punctuation mark you've probably never heard of: 〽 , the 庵点（いおりてん）.You see it used in Noh and Kabuki texts; that's the only place I've seen it.
use of iteration mark in words like 時々 - furrykef - 2010-10-18
From Wikipedia:
Wikipedia Wrote:The repetition mark is not used in every case where two identical characters appear side by side, but only where the repetition itself is etymologically significant. Where a character ends up appearing twice as part of a compound, it is usually written out in full:That's really the only case I can think of where you wouldn't use the iteration mark. Otherwise I would always use it.
民主主義 minshu-shugi — "democracy" (the abbreviated 民主々義 is only occasionally seen)