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Good serious media recommendations? - chamcham - 2010-09-20 Yonosa Wrote:If TV is too shallow for you, why not just read books?bodhisamaya Wrote:If you are looking for something serious, you will never learn Japanese. Only those who are looking to have fun will succeed.My my.... It just so happens that I find intellectually stimulating content entertaining and enjoyable... perhaps this is unthinkable to you or something that you would post such a response. But do not think I am going out looking for things I do not enjoy, the whole post is about how I do not enjoy most of the media because it is shallow in my opinion, and looking for alternatives that may be more to my tastes. I can already read most of the newspaper, save some trouble when reading about Government(which is ok since that is the most shallow corrupt mainstream perspective and falsifies what's going on, but I will still work to understand that completely, just a matter of a few thousand more vocabulary to push myself to 99% or so in that area.) So don't spout your ideas about fun and assume what is fun for you might be fun for everyone, in my case, quite the contrary. The book is almost always better than the movie/tv show. TV is made for mass-market appeal and produced by people looking to make money off the latest sensation. They're not always looking to keep faithful to the source material or verify that their theories are scientifically sound. Instead, you should go to the original source and read the books they were based on. Even if the Galileo TV show has too much cool factor for you, the novel might be completely different. Often characters (even entire story arcs) are missing and genders are changed in the TV show. The original novels were written by Higashino Keigo(東野圭吾). The TV show was based on 探偵ガリレオ and 予知夢. I've seen a few japanese people reading his books on the subway. He also wrote Yōgisha X no Kenshin (容疑者Xの献身), a spinoff of Galileo that won many literary awards (and was turned into a movie that many people raved about). Fumo Chitai and Karei Naru Ichizoku, both very deep dramas (and 2 of my all time favorites), are based on original novels written by Yamazaki Toyoko (山崎豊子). Just from those 2 dramas alone, I can tell you that his stories are very deep, complicated and gripping. Any good author is Yasutaka Tsutsui (筒井 康隆). He's a scifi author and wrote "Nanase Futatabi" in addition to dozens of other books and short stories. Nanase Futatabi was made into a drama 4 times. That must be some kind of record. Good serious media recommendations? - Asriel - 2010-09-20 caivano Wrote:http://www.thegreathappinessspace.com/Ooh, there's one that I forgot about. Pretty good. Kinda wanted to become a host for a short period of time, if for nothing else, then for making a bunch of money while having fun. But then they had to go and show how depressing it actually is ![]() edit: and by this i mean i'm also recommending it Good serious media recommendations? - raeesmerelda - 2010-09-21 chamcham Wrote:The experiment to test a theory is a major part of every episode. It's "cool" science though (the flashy kind with explosions), intended to better explain it to the actual detective. Whether the science is completely true, I wouldn't know.Yonosa Wrote:In the drama Galileo do they really stick to the science? I have never found that they really care much about the science used, it's more about the "cool" factor than anything I have found.The original novels were written by Higashino Keigo(東野圭吾). The TV show was based I swear I'm going to read those books someday. Good serious media recommendations? - howtwosavealif3 - 2010-12-03 love this song so, it's so funky i just can' find dl links for his stuff whatsover... and this almost never happens to me but i'll enjoy whatevre's on youtube for now. Good serious media recommendations? - buonaparte - 2010-12-03 What about Japanese cinema? Almost anything by these guyes is either good or very good. 黒澤 明 or 黒沢 明 Kurosawa Akira 成瀬 巳喜男 Naruse Mikio 小津 安二郎 Ozu Yasujirō 溝口 健二 Mizoguchi Kenji 清水 宏 Shimizu Hiroshi 木下 恵介 Kinoshita Keisuke 稲垣 浩 Inagaki Hiroshi 鈴木 清順 Suzuki Seijun 大島 渚 Ōshima Nagisa 新藤 兼人 Shindō Kaneto 今村 昌平 Imamura Shōhei 山田 洋次 Yamada Yōji 若松孝二 Wakamatsu Kōji 伊丹 十三 Itami Jūzō 北野 武 Kitano Takeshi 是枝 裕和 Koreeda Hirokazu 三池 崇史 Miike Takashi http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Japanese_cinema http://www.asiatorrents.com/index.php?page=torrents&search=&category=2&options=0&active=1 Good serious media recommendations? - KanjiDevourer - 2010-12-03 buonaparte Wrote:What about Japanese cinema?Very nice, thanks for the list! 黒澤 (くろさわ) is awesome and a very well known pioneer in the cinematic world (see f.i. 七人の侍 [しちにんのさむらい]). I saw an (in)famous movie of Miike's: Ichi the Killer - 殺し屋1.... that was by far the most revolting, disturbing movie I've ever seen. Yet I can't regret having seen it, somehow. I am glad I saw it in a theatre, or probably I would not have endured it. A warning is in place: this is not for the weak at heart or stomach. Good serious media recommendations? - buonaparte - 2010-12-03 As to documentaries, this one is absolutely stunning: ゆきゆきて、神軍 The Emperor's Naked Army Marches On (1987) Kazuo Hara http://www.foriegnmoviesddl.com/2010/11/emperors-naked-army-marches-on-1987.html It would be interesting to watch 野火 Nobi (English: Fires on the Plain) by 市川 崑 Ichikawa Kon after the above documentary. If you want something about 'normal' people, you might watch some movies by 成瀬 巳喜男 Naruse Mikio, 小津 安二郎 Ozu Yasujirō, and 清水 宏 Shimizu Hiroshi. They are all old, but very good. Good serious media recommendations? - Javizy - 2010-12-03 I don't really watch TV at all, and I end up giving up on most J-dramas after a couple of episodes, but I find 古畑任三郎 very watchable. I guess it comes under the fake cop drama category, and tends to be unrealistic, but 田村正和's unintentionally hilarious acting style is what makes it, despite it not actually being a comedy. I think pretty much all Japanese know him and the show, and can probably do a 古畑 impersonation, so it's worth watching at least one episode for the reference. You can find all the episodes easily on Tudou. I think someone mentioned modern warfare somewhere. Has there ever been a film/drama/anime/documentary about WW2? I get the impression that a lot of Japanese history likes to start from the aftermath of the atomic bombs. Good serious media recommendations? - Bokusenou - 2010-12-03 @Javizy Hmm, the only thing I can think of when it comes to WWII anime is the "childrens' everyday life during WWII" type of movie like Ushiro no Shoumen Dare and Hotaru no Haka. Burma no Tategoto is supposed to be good, but I haven't watched it yet. Good serious media recommendations? - Blahah - 2010-12-03 raeesmerelda Wrote:I just watched the first episode. In it there is quite a bit of good information, some technical detail about lasers and he also mentions dialectric heating (although this bit is badly translated in the subs I saw). There was also some made up stuff about spontaneous human combustion - he names some theories which don't exist as far as I know - but he also gave correct historical detail about supposed SHC cases.chamcham Wrote:The experiment to test a theory is a major part of every episode. It's "cool" science though (the flashy kind with explosions), intended to better explain it to the actual detective. Whether the science is completely true, I wouldn't know.Yonosa Wrote:In the drama Galileo do they really stick to the science? I have never found that they really care much about the science used, it's more about the "cool" factor than anything I have found.The original novels were written by Higashino Keigo(東野圭吾). The TV show was based You might as well try it Yonosa, it's not boring. Good serious media recommendations? - Javizy - 2010-12-04 Bokusenou Wrote:@JavizyThanks for the suggestions. I found 火垂るの墓 on Veoh (anyone who's interested search Grave of the Fireflies). Good serious media recommendations? - CyborgNinja - 2010-12-04 I totally understand the desire for serious Japanese dramas. Most Japanese shows have too much silly comedy - sometimes you just want something real. I enjoyed "Zeni Geba" and "Monster" (anime/manga). Zeni Geba may seem unrealistic at times, but it tends to surprise you in the end. It is an indepth character study. Good serious media recommendations? - Javizy - 2010-12-04 火垂るの墓は悲しかった、クッ... I came across a live action version too. I'm not sure what it's like, but that site is pretty good. Good serious media recommendations? - Javizy - 2010-12-18 Continuing with the WWII theme, I ordered Letters from Iwo Jima. I'm not sure how good it is, but it was nominated for/won some awards, it's all in Japanese, and features Ken-chan. Good serious media recommendations? - skimalodeon - 2011-01-06 Yeah, I agree most J TV isn't worth watching, but they have great cinema. Especially in Tokyo there are countless little cinemas showing great films. Anyway, I have a recommendation, have you seen 'kanzo sensei'? Its about a doctor in ww2. I guess its a comedy, but its very good. For some reason, they renamed it Dr. Akagi for the west http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0155796/ Good serious media recommendations? - dystopian - 2011-01-06 Here's a few recommendations from someone kinda in the same boat as you Yonosa: TV Bokura no Yuuki Jin Most taiga dramas Gokusen (1st season is ok) Debsha otoko (not the sucky movie) I was hooked on this Q10 Clone Baby Freeter ie wo kau (listen out for new casual ways of saying things) Hana yori dango (I avoided watching this for so long because this isn't the kinda stuff I go for but I really enjoyed it) Samurai high school (You get to compare samurai speech and behaviour with the modern day equivalent) Liar game Kurosagi Bloody monday (not overly realistic but it's worth a shot) sexy voice and robo Drifting net cafe Long Love Letter Twin Spica Nanase Once More Trick (this is awesome) Can't think of any any more off the top of my head Movies Battle Royale Azumi Crows zero Anything with this guy in Tadanobu Asano Anything by or with him in Takeshi kitano swing girls Rakugo Musume linda linda Anything with this guy in or by directed by him Shinya Tsukamoto Plus loads more I hardly watch anime so I cant really recommend much more than Akira and Ghost in The Shell. You've just gotta look harder. Search around on dramacrazy or asianmediawiki etc Good serious media recommendations? - astendra - 2011-01-06 If you like elaborate fantasy and don't mind visual novels, you might enjoy Fate/Stay Night. Despite being fairly long and complex, it manages to be quite well paced and internally consistent. Good serious media recommendations? - buonaparte - 2011-01-09 I have a question: Does anyone know about any movies about burakumin 部落民? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Burakumin Good serious media recommendations? - Ryuujin27 - 2011-01-09 十二国記 Books or anime. Anime is excellent but didn't properly finish. Good serious media recommendations? - ahibba - 2011-01-09 Javizy Wrote:火垂るの墓は悲しかった、クッ... I came across a live action version too. I'm not sure what it's like, but that site is pretty good.This is the 2008 movie. I recommend you to watch the 2005 version produced by NTV in commemoration of the 60th anniversary of the end of World War II. Unlike the animated version, it tells the story from a different point of view. Highly recommended. (BTW, it was the first Japanese movie I watched. That was 5 years ago, in June 2006). The English subtitle. Good serious media recommendations? - ahibba - 2011-01-10 buonaparte Wrote:I have a question:High and Low Departure Good serious media recommendations? - buonaparte - 2011-01-11 ahibba, the movies you mention are very good, but... they are not about burakumin. They only slightly and very indirectly touch the taboo. I meant something more direct and explicit. Never seen anything. The prejudice against burakumin is still alive, anyone familiar with 'four-finger' gesture will know. Good serious media recommendations? - buonaparte - 2011-01-23 Discovery Atlas - Japan Revealed (2008) http://avaxhome.ws/video/quality/hidef_hdtv_high_definition/Discovery-Atlas-Japan-Revealed.html http://docuwiki.net/index.php?title=Japan_Revealed Quote: Japan Revealed focuses on the unique balance in Japan between the seasons and life, and keeping old traditions alive in a modern world. The episode follows the lives of a geisha in training, a tuna fisherman, a group of Ama divers, two trend setting schoolgirls, a family competing in robotics fighting, and a tattoo artist. It's in English. Nothing serious, superficial. Shouldn't have posted it. Sorry. Good serious media recommendations? - wahnfrieden - 2011-01-24 KanjiDevourer Wrote:Very nice, thanks for the list! 黒澤 (くろさわ) is awesome and a very well known pioneer in the cinematic world (see f.i. 七人の侍 [しちにんのさむらい]).Miike has family-friendly films that are very good too (possibly his best): Happiness of the Katakuris, and The Bird People of China. I can't wait for his new 13 Assassins, it looks like it will be great. Side note, if you've seen his Visitor Q (far more revolting than Ichi the Killer even), I urge you to watch Pasolini's masterpiece, Teorema, which explores similar themes but is a far better film (and really one of the best films ever made). I'm pretty sure Visitor Q was based on it. |