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Really lost... - k4649 - 2010-09-15

Hi all,
I finished RTK1 a few weeks ago before I returned to college. I am currently enrolled in a formal Japanese class which is necessary for my major and minor, but it's tough because we are supposed to be learning kanji at the same time as studying grammar. So, I already know how to write the kanji, but do you think it's a good idea to memorize the pronunciations by way of making up flash cards for Anki? I was thinking of using RTK2 as sort of a base in making my cards, but I have to study on'yomi and kunyomi at the same time so it's not exactly what Heisig suggests. Any suggestions on how I should deal with kanji for my class?


Really lost... - jcdietz03 - 2010-09-15

1) Ask your teacher for suggestions. It will be interesting to learn what they say.
漢字の読み方は、どやって習いますか? is my attempt at how to ask this in Japanese if you want to try to impress your teacher.

2) I suggest either sentences or words. Go to your textbook kanji tables and put the example words in Anki. Alternatively, go to the dialogue and reading passages in your textbook and put sentences that contain those words in Anki. Alternatively, go to EDICT and put in [kanji] and choose [common words]. Pick one or two that sound interesting to you for each kanji. Try to pick ones with both on and kun readings.


Really lost... - Asriel - 2010-09-15

I'm not sure how your school suggests learning the readings. In my experience, they just want you to learn the words they want you to learn.

If you just want to learn the readings, and want to do it heisig-esquely, why not just kind of go through it again, except adding the reading as a primitive to the story, or linking the keyword to the reading somehow. This could potentially be a lot faster than heisig, as you'd have 2 things, a keyword(kanji) and a reading or a few.
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What else you could do is choose certain kanji you want to learn the reading(s) for, and just learn a bunch of words with that kanji in it. This is where RTK2 might come in handy, because of some of the groupings (i forget which), where like 被 披 疲 are all "ヒ" and have the "pelt" primitive. Then you can learn a bunch of words/kanji using that primitive to signal the reading. This doesn't always work, but it's handy for the ones that it does.


Really lost... - chamcham - 2010-09-15

Congrats on finishing RTK1!

Do you already know some japanese grammar?
If so, maybe you should try reading manga.

They are many websites online where you can
download raw (i.e. untranslated) japanese manga.

Most manga either have:

a)no pronunciations (furigana) at all
b) pronunciations written for EVERY kanji

So just find a manga that you like (with furigana) and
just go through little-by-little at your own pace. You'll pick
up Japanese over time.

If you're next to a computer while reading, http://www.jgram.org is a good
site to use as a grammar reference.


Really lost... - bertoni - 2010-09-15

Making up some Anki cards for vocabulary is a fine idea. I agree that using good sentences in them is useful, but even definitions would be okay, IMO.