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After Tae Kim... - Michael1919 - 2010-08-31
What should I move onto next? I've heard Tae Kim can get you to N2, but for N2/N1 you need Kanzen Master 2/1. If I don't have any interest in taking the JLPT though, is there a better alternative for grammar once I reach N2? Otherwise, should I just get Kanzen Master? Thanks to anyone who responds.
After Tae Kim... - pm215 - 2010-08-31
I'm kind of reminded of this recent thread (in which various people say that Tae Kim's guide is not sufficient for N2, and in which I say that KM2 is pretty poor and you should use something else as a reference).
Searching through previous forum threads should also turn up suggestions from other people. Depends a bit whether you want a reference resource or something more structured (ie textbook-ish).
After Tae Kim... - Michael1919 - 2010-08-31
Thanks for the response.
After Tae Kim... - Womacks23 - 2010-08-31
Tae Kim doesn't get you anywhere near N2. If you want a structured approach to learning grammar once you finish Tae Kim you should start with a JLPT N4 book and go from there.
If you don't want to learn with that style then I'd suggest getting a good grammar reference book and a Japanese book or magazine you enjoy and look up stuff as you go along.
After Tae Kim... - Michael1919 - 2010-09-01
Thanks. So, if I want a structured approach...Start with a N4 book and work my way through N3/N2 books from there to N1? If not a structured approach, then just get a reference/grammar book and read while using the grammar/reference book when needed?
After Tae Kim... - pm215 - 2010-09-01
So my definition of "structured" is "proceeding through the grammar points in a sensible order, backed up with reading practice which uses them, exercises, and so on". If your Nwhatever book is in alphabetical order I'd count that as "unstructured", in that you'll have to figure out yourself which bits of grammar you want to learn first and provide your own reading practice and consolidation.
I generally agree with what Aijin wrote in this post about ways of learning grammar and reference vs learning resources.