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Making my OS type in Japanese more conveniently: help. - zachandhobbes - 2010-08-21

Hi everyone. I love typing in Japanese (あの。。。分かるものだけど。。。)on my PC.

I have it set as the default. When I push Shift+leftALT, it switches to Japanese typing.

However... it's really annoying because when I push shift+leftalt, it defaults to the 'Alphanumeric' typing instead of 'Hiragana' so nothing really changes. I have to go to my language bar and change it to Hiragana every time I want to do it. It's really pointless.

I tried poking around the settings but couldn't figure out how to make it default to Hiragana. In fact, I wouldn't mind removing the 'alphanumeric' option altogether.

Actually, I'd like to remove that as well as the 'half width' かたかな and 'half width' alphanumeric. Why would I want my kanas to overlap? That's so dumb you can't even read.

But mainly I just want to default to Hiragana. Can anyone help?

http://ploader.net/files/83c9879102923b8e0918bb9d78f5338d.png


Making my OS type in Japanese more conveniently: help. - meredithcat - 2010-08-21

Are you using a PC? Try pressing Ctrl+Capslock after pressing Alt+Shift.


Making my OS type in Japanese more conveniently: help. - brendanmacdonald - 2010-08-21

Once the Japanese keyboard is selected (through Alt-Shift, e.g.) you can change the input mode to hiragana by pressing Ctrl-CapsLock. That just goes TO hiragana; i.e. it's not a toggle.

Alt-CapsLock goes to katakana.

Shift-CapsLock goes to half-width alphanumeric.


Making my OS type in Japanese more conveniently: help. - zachandhobbes - 2010-08-21

That's helpful, thanks. Too bad there's not a way to just make it one step instead of two. But that helps a lot!


Making my OS type in Japanese more conveniently: help. - ocircle - 2010-08-21

http://i.imgur.com/GORx5.jpg


Making my OS type in Japanese more conveniently: help. - JimmySeal - 2010-08-21

Alt+` also toggles between alpha mode and the most recent Japanese mode.

Quote:Too bad there's not a way to just make it one step instead of two. But that helps a lot!
Why not leave your IME set to Japanese all the time? Then it's only one step.


Making my OS type in Japanese more conveniently: help. - Anna B - 2010-08-21

[So glad I use a Mac....]


Making my OS type in Japanese more conveniently: help. - bizarrojosh - 2010-08-21

Anna B Wrote:[So glad I use a Mac....]
was this post necessary? How did it help the op in anyway?


I've found that "alt" + "~" switches between romaji and kana quickly. You have to be in the japanese keyboard mode so like other have said just use "alt" + "shift" if the "alt""~" didn't work.


Making my OS type in Japanese more conveniently: help. - Mcjon01 - 2010-08-21

Yeah, it's way more convenient if you just delete the English keyboard outright. It's not like you need it; the Japanese keyboard defaults to direct input anyway, and if it's the only one you have then all you have to do is press "alt" + "~" to switch back and forth between English and Japanese.


Making my OS type in Japanese more conveniently: help. - zachandhobbes - 2010-08-22

Really? Will it have any adverse impacts on inputting fields and stuff?

Like, I know AJATT and whatnot, but I do need to function in English. I'm in high school, I have AP US History this year, etc.

Will 'alphanumeric' be exactly the same as having an english keyboard?


Making my OS type in Japanese more conveniently: help. - Mcjon01 - 2010-08-22

Yes, direct input is exactly the same as the English keyboard. I mean, you've got the Japanese keyboard installed already, right? Switch to it and check for yourself. I didn't delete my English keyboard for any reason related to AJATT, I did it because it's more convenient with no negative repercussions.


Making my OS type in Japanese more conveniently: help. - Anna B - 2010-08-22

bizarrojosh Wrote:
Anna B Wrote:[So glad I use a Mac....]
was this post necessary? How did it help the op in anyway?
You found this offensive? I'm totally surprised. I intended it as a brief and mildly humorous* suggestion to OP (and others) that this whole thing is a lot simpler on a Mac, should they have current or future access to one.

*AFAIK the Mac-PC flame wars ended years ago and are now in the realm of joke material.


Making my OS type in Japanese more conveniently: help. - zachandhobbes - 2010-08-22

Yeah, it's all fine here I mean Macs can't right click so it's all fair and balanced ( ;P )

I deleted the English keyboard and things are going fine. Thanks guys!


Making my OS type in Japanese more conveniently: help. - Asriel - 2010-08-22

@zachandhobbes -- Oh please, Macs can right-click just as well as PCs can. Except, if you have a trackpad instead of a mouse, it's "double finger-click," which, I guess is discriminatory towards people who have chopped off 4 of their fingers...

@Anna B -- I don't think it was necessarily offensive as it was useless and didn't contribute anything to the conversation. Then again, I'm not too much better in this thread Tongue
btw: Also using a mac.


Making my OS type in Japanese more conveniently: help. - zachandhobbes - 2010-08-22

Of course I know that, I spend too much time on Team Fortress 2 forums where it's more of an obvious joke ("Macs can't Mouse2! HAHA you can't use -special ability-" etc etc).

Just kidding around Big Grin

question: Now that I have switched to the Japan keyboard only, how do I switch easily from hiragana to katakana without going to the little menu? ALT+Caps doesn't seem to do the trick anymore.

たとえば。。。
これは片仮名じゃないよ (n0n)


Making my OS type in Japanese more conveniently: help. - JimmySeal - 2010-08-22

You can convert the text you're typing to katakana by pressing F7 or hitting spacebar and selecting the option written in katakana. You shouldn't need to switch your IME into katakana mode unless you're typing large chunks of text in katakana.


Making my OS type in Japanese more conveniently: help. - zachandhobbes - 2010-08-22

Ah got it! thanks!


Making my OS type in Japanese more conveniently: help. - Rekkusu - 2010-08-22

[Psst, mac users only have to hold the shift bar for that Big Grin]


Making my OS type in Japanese more conveniently: help. - kazelee - 2010-08-22

That's nothing. On Linux you can program a self writing pen that reads your mind and selects the proper kanji accordingly Tongue BBQ


Making my OS type in Japanese more conveniently: help. - JimmySeal - 2010-08-22

Rekkusu Wrote:[Psst, mac users only have to hold the shift bar for that Big Grin]
What's a shift bar?


Making my OS type in Japanese more conveniently: help. - EratiK - 2010-08-22

This thread is great, thank you guys!
Too bad I can't delete the French keyboard (if only there could be a qwerty with accents...).
The Alt+Shift is gonna save me a lot energy (it's important to preserve the wrist).
ありがとございます
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