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Flashcard still considered right? - token686 - 2010-07-31
Hello everyone, just a quick question. When doing my reviews if I don't remember a Kanji from the keyword and have to look at the story, but reproduce it that way is it considered right or wrong?
Thanks!
Flashcard still considered right? - Asriel - 2010-07-31
When I was going through RtK, and with basically any flashcards, I guess, how I grade it is based on what I'm testing for.
In the case of RtK, you want to remember the Kanji; so if you can't remember the Kanji, then it's wrong. If you remember the story, you'll probably remember the kanji. But if you have to look at the story and THEN write it, you're basically taking out all the hard work of remembering the kanji, making it wrong.
tl;dr: you didn't remember the kanji, so it's wrong.
Flashcard still considered right? - Ramsey - 2010-07-31
I also would fail the card. It just doesn't seem fair, the story gives you almost everything you need.
Flashcard still considered right? - hornlo - 2010-07-31
I'd say fail the card, for the reasons Asriel stated.
Don't let the connotations of "test", "pass/fail", or "right/wrong" lead you astray; this is training, not evaluation. Forget the imaginary teacher looking over your shoulder, the imaginary competitors in the race that doesn't exist.
When I first started, I tended to go easy on myself because I wanted to have good "grade". I'd pass a card even if it took a long while to recall the kanji. I'd pass a card if I made just a "little" mistake in placement or form (telling myself "I'll remember that next time."). Sometimes I'd "cheat" by glancing at the story like you've mentioned.
But this is ultimately a disservice to one's self. My goal is to have quick, fluid recall, so I've begun grading myself much harder. Except in moments of weakness (ha), I'll even fail a card if I get it right but take too long to recall it -- if I have to "work" at remembering it, then I don't really know it (maybe it's time to adjust or change the story).
My percentage success has dropped, but I don't care. I suspect it will climb back up again because "harder" grading will help me identify bad review habits and reinforce good ones.
Failing early and often will likely reduce the total time spent on a card. I think it will reinforce your memory because you'll recall why you failed the card as you review it. Once it moves into the more mature stacks, it's less likely to ever again get bumped back to the new/forgotten stack.
Flashcard still considered right? - token686 - 2010-07-31
Thanks for all of the responses guys, also... do you think it's cheating myself if I do a big review (about 100 restudy cards or so), take a 10 - 20 minute break and review again? With everything being fresh in my head I have a better chance of remembering it, so I feel as though it may be cheating a little bit.
Flashcard still considered right? - Tobberoth - 2010-07-31
token686 Wrote:Thanks for all of the responses guys, also... do you think it's cheating myself if I do a big review (about 100 restudy cards or so), take a 10 - 20 minute break and review again? With everything being fresh in my head I have a better chance of remembering it, so I feel as though it may be cheating a little bit.Don't really understand what you mean, you should only review cards when they expire. If you mean adding kanji then immediately reviewing them, I think you should wait a bit more than 20 minutes, maybe 2 hours.
Flashcard still considered right? - caivano - 2010-07-31
token686 Wrote:Thanks for all of the responses guys, also... do you think it's cheating myself if I do a big review (about 100 restudy cards or so), take a 10 - 20 minute break and review again? With everything being fresh in my head I have a better chance of remembering it, so I feel as though it may be cheating a little bit.I think 20 mins is okay. That's about the time anki leaves it before cards come back, and I have a good retention rate from that.