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Restarting the Quizzes... HOW? - Savage Japan - 2010-07-09

Maybe this is the wrong place to ask this, but how the heck do I keep reviewing or restart a quiz on Reviewing the Kanji.

It acts like I'm done and could not possibly want to study further.

I log back in weeks or months later and it lets me review again.

What's up with that? :-)


Restarting the Quizzes... HOW? - Asriel - 2010-07-09

http://www.omniglot.com/language/srs.php
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spaced_repetition
http://www.alljapaneseallthetime.com/blog/what-is-an-srs

It's an SRS, designed to put things into your long-term memory as opposed to your short-term. It's supposed to be like that, don't worry.

Highly unrecommended, but if you wanted to "review" or "restart" something, i guess you could just hit "not remembered" for everything you wanted to review......


Restarting the Quizzes... HOW? - Savage Japan - 2010-07-09

Thank you for the reply.

So, when will I be granted the privilege of reviewing again?
How long must I wait?

Also, why does it say I haven't learned a lesson, when I have learned it and I have already entered the last card in that lesson as my progress point?

Does everyone go through this confusion process?
My teachers said I was a smart boy, but I guess not.
Is there a FAQ here? I couldn't find that either. :-)


Restarting the Quizzes... HOW? - Asriel - 2010-07-09

It keeps track of each card, as opposed to lessons.
You'll review the cards as they need to be reviewed.

ex. Lets say you're learning Apple, Banana, and Computer. You continually get Apple correct in your reviews, and the more you get it correct, the longer it will take until you review it again. With Banana you do pretty well, but forget it after about 3 reviews. Then the process will start over, and you'll see it pretty recently. You just can't get Computer into your head, and it seems like you fail it every time -- you'll probably be seeing it almost every day.

So when will you get the 'privilege' of reviewing again? It depends on how soon the system thinks you'll forget it.

You're last question -- I really have no idea. Maybe you entered it in as a progress point, but didn't review them? I don't know the technical stuff behind it, so I have no clue.


Restarting the Quizzes... HOW? - Savage Japan - 2010-07-09

I have dabbled with this type of review process before with other programs.
I understand the concept.

But I am still baffled by my inability to keep studying or to at least add new data to the mix.
It would seem reasonable that a person could add to their load new kanji at anytime to be tested on, even if the system is sure you are not ready (or need) to be tested on previous kanji again.

With so many users here, I must believe I am just missing something obvious somehow.
I am pretty sure what I am experiencing is not what was intended here.


Restarting the Quizzes... HOW? - Asriel - 2010-07-09

Well, then I'm not the right person to answer. It seemed to me like you were just confused about the system itself.

It seems like you're talking more about the way the website is set up, ie. your inability to do things when you want/add info/etc, and I can't really help you there.

Maybe download Anki and do what you want in there?

Quote:It would seem reasonable that a person could add to their load new kanji at anytime to be tested on
Wait a second, you're having trouble adding new kanji??


Restarting the Quizzes... HOW? - Katsuo - 2010-07-09

Savage Japan Wrote:Is there a FAQ here? I couldn't find that either. :-)
Learn More


Restarting the Quizzes... HOW? - Savage Japan - 2010-07-09

Thanks for the suggestion. I have an old version of that program on my computer. I used it a while back for other things.

I just wish I could figure this site out.
It seems quite nice in many respects, but not intuitive.
And I doubt I am the only one having these issues.

Certainly in the history of this site, someone took the time to explain how it works in a post somewhere.


Restarting the Quizzes... HOW? - Savage Japan - 2010-07-09

Katsuo, Thanks for that link.

Yes, I have added the Kanji number where I have studied to in book, but review doesn't offer me those later kanji to review.

Perhaps because I had a review already today, it doesn't want me to have another one, even though I added more kanji after I finished first review of the day?
That is kind of kooky though.


Restarting the Quizzes... HOW? - Asriel - 2010-07-09

No, because I can add cards, review, add cards, review...

So, you review the cards that are supposed to be reviewed one day..
Then you go to "Manage" and add the new cards you want.
Then you go back to "Review" and there's not a big blue button that says 'XX New Cards' ?


Restarting the Quizzes... HOW? - Tzadeck - 2010-07-09

Your reviews come up once a day. So, just review once a day. Don't review any more than that, it's a waste of time.


Restarting the Quizzes... HOW? - ファブリス - 2010-07-10

As Asriel said, after you add new cards there should be a blue stack on the "Review" page with the Leitner graph. There should also be a blue button to start reviewing new cards. Both are clickable (blue button or the blue stack). However once you have reviewed these they have entered the SRS cycle, so they will take anywhere from 1 to 3 days to show up again.

There is currently no feature to review a set of cards multiple times in a row. You can technically do this by removing and adding cards again using the "Manage" tab (delete and add custom selections of card eg "20-50").

I am really interested by this type of user feedback, but to be really helpful you'd need to be more precise. What exactly didn't make sense, at which point did you lost you way in the website and so on. You're quite vague here.

I reckon the website is not that intuitive, because it was built gradually. It's not at all streamlined like a 37 Signals web app.. I will have to start from a blank slate, create new prototypes(wireframes) for all screens to rethink the whole workflow.

As for learning lessons, I don't have the code under my eyes right now, but I think every card in the lesson need to have at least one review for the lesson to be marked as completed on the "Progress" page.