jettyke Wrote:It's a pretty old thread, but do you mind if I ask how you can do 1700 reps in 40 minutes?

Or is the anki clock lying?

julianjalapeno Wrote:Judging by his posts (in this older thread and even in recent ones), I think ta is perhaps a little over-eager to excel and while it's great to be motivated, it's also good to be realistic and recognize ones limitations. Saying "I can understand 90% of everything I read/hear on TV/news/books with ease" then saying "I'm by no means fluent" comes off as false modesty. (It honestly reminds me of this one time a buddy and I indulged in a particular herb and watched Japanese broadcast TV I had taped. He claimed with complete certainty that he could suddenly understand everything they were saying! When I asked him what they were saying he paused and admitted..."I dunno.") Also saying he's only been studying for 19 months but actually studied for a year before that but it doesn't count because he wasn't really trying shows to me that he really wants to be special with this hobby and maybe is used to being the smartest guy in the room and needs that validation.

You can't be fluent after a year of study, no matter how immersed you are. It's a slight to other students that are struggling with the language for years as well as to native speakers who go through many years of schooling in addition to being raised with it. You can make a lot of progress in a short time but not to that degree.

I think there's an inherent insecurity and competition that goes along with this hobby (or whatever you want to call it) which is why some people here have reacted negatively to his posts as well as to why he feels compelled to claim his skills are as good as they are.

Nuriko Wrote:

ta12121 Wrote:-Speak with a flow/small or no mistakes in it. 90% of the time.

Wow! Would you say speaking is one of your stronger points? As it's my weakest point and it's hard to imagine even attaining this kind of success, I can't help but be very impressed.

caivano Wrote:

Nuriko Wrote:

ta12121 Wrote:-Speak with a flow/small or no mistakes in it. 90% of the time.

Wow! Would you say speaking is one of your stronger points? As it's my weakest point and it's hard to imagine even attaining this kind of success, I can't help but be very impressed.

He was referring to:

'I'll believe I'm fluent when I can.....
-Speak with a flow/small or no mistakes in it. 90% of the time.

This thread has a life of it's own...

ta12121 Wrote:

jettyke Wrote:It's a pretty old thread, but do you mind if I ask how you can do 1700 reps in 40 minutes?

Or is the anki clock lying?

The amount of reps I do daily sometimes reaches 4000. But actually,really recently(just 2 days ago). I deleted/re-adjusted my srs pace. Nowadays I only average around 1000-2000. I thought to myself: "It's time to delete some of these cards". I specifically deleted kanji(names) from my sentence deck. As it wasn't really helpful. I basically just add them as I go by now.

As to how I do it. It's quick/I don't write them down. I just read them/understand them. This picked up pace as I got better in japanese. In the beginning I was decoding almost everything. Which basically slowed me down. It took sometime, but eventually I naturally picked up the pace/speed of how I use the srs(anki for my choice)

jettyke Wrote:

ta12121 Wrote:

jettyke Wrote:It's a pretty old thread, but do you mind if I ask how you can do 1700 reps in 40 minutes?

Or is the anki clock lying?

The amount of reps I do daily sometimes reaches 4000. But actually,really recently(just 2 days ago). I deleted/re-adjusted my srs pace. Nowadays I only average around 1000-2000. I thought to myself: "It's time to delete some of these cards". I specifically deleted kanji(names) from my sentence deck. As it wasn't really helpful. I basically just add them as I go by now.

As to how I do it. It's quick/I don't write them down. I just read them/understand them. This picked up pace as I got better in japanese. In the beginning I was decoding almost everything. Which basically slowed me down. It took sometime, but eventually I naturally picked up the pace/speed of how I use the srs(anki for my choice)

But really, this numbers a lot, even if I don't write down :o!

Do you have some kind of a way of thinking that the faster, the better?
Usually what makes me faster is caffeine , and then it makes me drowsy and slows me down. I just can' t get it, how you can do this, I make more like 100 vocabulary reps per hour:S. It makes me think you must have some kind of a secret lol xD
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Especially long is recalling. I'm like 15 seconds figuring out which kanji were there, besides everything else.

jettyke Wrote:Yeah,I guess the speed will improve.
When I started learning kanji, 20 per day was my max, I was exhausted after those.
In the very end I learned 100-140 per day.

ta12121 Wrote:I was thinking of starting another new thread. Since I'm at 15 months(Usual give a 5 month difference for every report)-It's to notice huge improvements from last time. But I'm not too sure that would be a good idea lol.

overture2112 Wrote:

ta12121 Wrote:I was thinking of starting another new thread. Since I'm at 15 months(Usual give a 5 month difference for every report)-It's to notice huge improvements from last time. But I'm not too sure that would be a good idea lol.

I'd like to see such a thread and I'm sure others would as well.

ta12121 Wrote:Doing JLPT level 2 right now.
Section
2006年度2級
文字・語彙
Will post results soon for this section

Results are 51/65. For this section.

jettyke Wrote:

ta12121 Wrote:Doing JLPT level 2 right now.
Section
2006年度2級
文字・語彙
Will post results soon for this section

Results are 51/65. For this section.

Damn I don't understand how you can have like 15k+ mature sentences, and 12k vocab in your vocab deck, and not get maximum points. 2kyuu tests 6k words right, you had almost 3 times more mature words than that.

Might it be because of lack of reading and reinforcement of that vocab?

dizmox Wrote:I don't think 2kyuu tests only 6k words.... there's probably a long tail of other words it uses.

jettyke Wrote:Damn I don't understand how you can have like 15k+ mature sentences, and 12k vocab in your vocab deck, and not get maximum points. 2kyuu tests 6k words right, you had almost 3 times more mature words than that.

Might it be because of lack of reading and reinforcement of that vocab?

howtwosavealif3 Wrote:uhh just have fun.
why waste time with jlpt crap (unless you need to take this test cause you want to get a job)
it's so boring.

ta12121 Wrote:

dizmox Wrote:I don't think 2kyuu tests only 6k words.... there's probably a long tail of other words it uses.

I think it is 6000, might be wrong on it. But I know 1kyuu tests for 10,000. In preparation for 1kyuu. I'm planning on taking all the practice tests online for practice+review grammar

dizmox Wrote:

ta12121 Wrote:

dizmox Wrote:I don't think 2kyuu tests only 6k words.... there's probably a long tail of other words it uses.

I think it is 6000, might be wrong on it. But I know 1kyuu tests for 10,000. In preparation for 1kyuu. I'm planning on taking all the practice tests online for practice+review grammar

There are no fixed word lists, the previously published numbers were for the old specification and weren't comprehensive, just guideline figures (they were still allowed to include words off the list).

jettyke Wrote:

howtwosavealif3 Wrote:uhh just have fun.
why waste time with jlpt crap (unless you need to take this test cause you want to get a job)
it's so boring.

Passing JLPT opens a whole lot of new opportunities, from studying in Japanese in a Japanese university to getting a job.

It's benefitial and that's why I want to take it.

aphasiac Wrote:

jettyke Wrote:Damn I don't understand how you can have like 15k+ mature sentences, and 12k vocab in your vocab deck, and not get maximum points. 2kyuu tests 6k words right, you had almost 3 times more mature words than that.

Might it be because of lack of reading and reinforcement of that vocab?

In a more recent progress thread, someone questioned ta12121's card-stats, and it was revealed he never fails cards; his SRS is used more for exposure. Therefore "mature" cards don't necessarily meant fully learnt.

Dragonsheep Wrote:May I ask, percentage wise, how much of your total study time is devoted to Anki? How much of your total immersion time?

Was Anki your main source for vocab building (when your vocab was still in the 1-2k range?) If not, what vocab method building method did you use?

Thanks!