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The Internet is making you stupid - Eikyu - 2010-06-05
http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424052748704025304575284981644790098.html
http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424052748704025304575284973472694334.html
"What we seem to be sacrificing in all our surfing and searching is our capacity to engage in the quieter, attentive modes of thought that underpin contemplation, reflection and introspection. The Web never encourages us to slow down. It keeps us in a state of perpetual mental locomotion.
It is revealing, and distressing, to compare the cognitive effects of the Internet with those of an earlier information technology, the printed book. Whereas the Internet scatters our attention, the book focuses it. Unlike the screen, the page promotes contemplativeness.
Reading a long sequence of pages helps us develop a rare kind of mental discipline. The innate bias of the human brain, after all, is to be distracted. Our predisposition is to be aware of as much of what's going on around us as possible. Our fast-paced, reflexive shifts in focus were once crucial to our survival. They reduced the odds that a predator would take us by surprise or that we'd overlook a nearby source of food.
To read a book is to practice an unnatural process of thought. It requires us to place ourselves at what T. S. Eliot, in his poem "Four Quartets," called "the still point of the turning world." We have to forge or strengthen the neural links needed to counter our instinctive distractedness, thereby gaining greater control over our attention and our mind.
It is this control, this mental discipline, that we are at risk of losing as we spend ever more time scanning and skimming online. If the slow progression of words across printed pages damped our craving to be inundated by mental stimulation, the Internet indulges it. It returns us to our native state of distractedness, while presenting us with far more distractions than our ancestors ever had to contend with. "
The Internet is making you stupid - Raschaverak - 2010-06-06
"The internet is making you stupid"
Tell me something I don't know
The Internet is making you stupid - Nukemarine - 2010-06-06
Raschaverak Wrote:"The internet is making you stupid"You can't lick your elbow.
Tell me something I don't know
The Internet is making you stupid - bodhisamaya - 2010-06-06
Here are some other things you didn't know:豆しば
The Internet is making you stupid - Raschaverak - 2010-06-06
bodhisamaya Wrote:Here are some other things you didn't know:豆しばScary, man veeeery scary....
The Internet is making you stupid - Eikyu - 2010-06-06
Raschaverak Wrote:You should not be scared of knowledge, even when it is being told to you by small talking bits of food. Amazing.bodhisamaya Wrote:Here are some other things you didn't know:豆しばScary, man veeeery scary....
This is scary:
The Internet is making you stupid - Ryuujin27 - 2010-06-06
I have to say I completely disagree. I don't feel like typing a whole argument, because I don't really care to argue it that much, but I just want to pose this question: When you meet someone of the older generation who didn't have the internet and probably still doesn't use it, don't you notice a difference in ability? I won't even say intelligence here, because that can vary person to person, but someone with access to all the internet holds is definitely a more capable, well-rounded individual.
Assuming they use the internet for more than porn and 4chan.
The Internet is making you stupid - Raschaverak - 2010-06-06
Ryuujin27 Wrote:I have to say I completely disagree. I don't feel like typing a whole argument, because I don't really care to argue it that much, but I just want to pose this question: When you meet someone of the older generation who didn't have the internet and probably still doesn't use it, don't you notice a difference in ability? I won't even say intelligence here, because that can vary person to person, but someone with access to all the internet holds is definitely a more capable, well-rounded individual.Your're right. Yesterday I was attending a chartered accountant course, and at some point the fat female teacher started to dictate an exercise. And she dictated, and dictated, and dictated, like in the prehistoric era, when Socrated did the same, and his listeners just kept jotting down the words....it lasted for 30 minutes...we were writing, and writing, and writing..and..I realised why Hungary is such a shitty economical state. As long as people like these get to educate the students, we will stay where we at. She could've typed in the whole shitty excercise during the previous evenging, and sending it via, gmail. (we have a group gmail accout). Or when she doesn't like typing, she could've just recorded the whole thing with a microphne, send the file to gmail, and somebody from the group would've typed it in, and printed it out. But noooo..I swear to god, I almost started crying.
Assuming they use the internet for more than porn and 4chan.
Just like in gradeschool. I'm ashamed
The Internet is making you stupid - Raschaverak - 2010-06-06
Obviously people are missing my point. Either I can't express myself well enough in english, or maybe nobody reads my posts. Well, nevermind. I'm on the point of view, regarding my internet usage, which mostly included reading on the net (nothing more), that it IS a waste of time. If you use the net to Learn, that's another thing, that's good. But reading only, all the time is retarded, and I regret it deeply. Why? because I'm not memorising the god damned material, so eventually I will forget it (usually in a few weeks, or sooner) and it never occured to me to srs what I've read (but it's useless, because it's just scattered and not structured information). If you use the net occasionally like every other day, or just every day for 1-2 hours, I think that's acceptable. I, however sat in front of it 14 hours regularly, and still mostly reading, like a junkie
I could've spent my time learning programming, or even japanese, or whatever. So in conclusion, in my case: internet: no, books: yes.
The Internet is making you stupid - Raschaverak - 2010-06-06
Eikyu Wrote:Yes it is. It was the wrong choice of words: what I meant is: disturbingRaschaverak Wrote:You should not be scared of knowledge, even when it is being told to you by small talking bits of food. Amazing.bodhisamaya Wrote:Here are some other things you didn't know:豆しばScary, man veeeery scary....
The Internet is making you stupid - kazelee - 2010-06-06
Okay... either people have erased their posts, or you just had a three post conversation with yourself.
It seems nest0r/ruiner/sennahoj is rubbing off on you.
The Internet is making you stupid - nest0r - 2010-06-06
Well, I knew it was going to be something you did as a mod... I knew I should've volunteered when Fabrice posted that thread... Ah well. ^_^
The Internet is making you stupid - Offshore - 2010-06-06
Ryuujin27 Wrote:I have to say I completely disagree. I don't feel like typing a whole argument, because I don't really care to argue it that much, but I just want to pose this question: When you meet someone of the older generation who didn't have the internet and probably still doesn't use it, don't you notice a difference in ability? I won't even say intelligence here, because that can vary person to person, but someone with access to all the internet holds is definitely a more capable, well-rounded individual.While I partially agree with you, I think your last sentence sums most of it up. I don't about you guys and how things are where you live, but in my generation of people (20-30's), I know VERY few who use the internet to actually *gasp* learn stuff. Unless something's required for school or something, my experience leads me to believe that the vast majority of people use the internet for porn, and uh, playing farmville/fishville/gangstaville/whatever on facebook all day. And if they aren't on the computer, they're on their phones, sending 500+ text messages a day.
Assuming they use the internet for more than porn and 4chan.
Of course, this is all just my biased opinion, lol. Things are probably vastly different than what I imagine :p