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Yet another RTK2 - keyword thread - synewave - 2007-06-07
The latest fad is to combine my RTK1 review with RTK2 ON yomi practice. Might be something that I can use after Fabrice does his next major update. If not I'll fire the flashcards on to Twinkle.
Anyway, what I'm trying to build is an Excel sheet of jukugo with a missing kanji. Then when reviewing, I am tested on both the writing of the missing character as well as the jukugo reading.
The idea is fine. But the time it's taking to build this file is outrageous. It's eating into time I should be spending on the forum!
So I was wondering if anyone has a complete (or partial) RTK2 list of kanji compounds of 3+ characters. If so could I have it?
The reason I'm interested in compounds of 3 or more characters is so that the "answer" is hopfully unique.
e.g. for 改＿口 the "answer" in my mind is 札 but for say 改＿ there could be numerous "answers".
Yet another RTK2 - keyword thread - chamcham - 2007-06-07
I think it'd be easier to work backwards. Start off with the WWWJDIC dictionary in XML format(I think it's called JMDict).
Write a program that:
Strips out all the dictionary entries with non-RTK kanji
Strips out all entries with less than 3 characters(kanji)
and that's it
Yet another RTK2 - keyword thread - yukamina - 2007-07-15
I don't know if it's a good idea to do a fill in the blanks thing. It'd get too confusing, there'd be too many possibilities. Using 3 kanji compounds wouldn't be as practical. Personally, I go from reading and meaning to compound(or vice versa).
Yet another RTK2 - keyword thread - synewave - 2007-07-15
yukamina Wrote:I don't know if it's a good idea to do a fill in the blanks thing. It'd get too confusing, there'd be too many possibilities. Using 3 kanji compounds wouldn't be as practical. Personally, I go from reading and meaning to compound(or vice versa).For 2 kanji compounds I totally agree. However I'm only using 3 and 4 kanji compounds with the aim of there only being one possible answer. The problem I'm finding is the time it takes to track down "decent" compounds. Now I'm not explicitly looking for them but if I notice one, add it to my list.
Yet another RTK2 - keyword thread - yukamina - 2007-07-16
But there's way more 2 kanji compounds than 3-4 kanji compounds, so it doesn't seem as practical to build a system around. It wouldn't be useful studying just 3-4 kanji compounds.
Yet another RTK2 - keyword thread - wrightak - 2007-07-16
I hate to harp on but I think that if you want to do a fill in the blanks exercise then example sentences are the key. You could also combine the example sentence question part of the flash card with a definition from the 広辞苑 if you like. That way the chances of having too many possibilities is very remote. I review everything like this, be it RTK 1, RTK 2, my vocabulary list from the book I'm reading, vocab from emails I receive, whatever.
I can't stress how important context is for me with each word I learn. That's why example sentences or even paragraphs really help.
eg. (from the book I'm reading - ブレイブ・ストーリー)
Q: p34
目を＿＿＿てみたが、亘にはよくわからない。
一つところに集中させる。
A: 凝らす こらす
This would have worked equally well with an RTK 2 compound.