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Japanese from Japanese Porn - smartazjb0y - 2010-06-02
Raschaverak Wrote:This is a great thread, because, it will indirectly indicate what gender the forum members have....I highly doubt that female members would participate in writing in this threadI actually made a thread asking if it would be good study material. So far, what I have is just the "boring" real life part, not quite at the good stuff. If anyone wants to know, the eroge I used is Sono Hanabira ni Kuchizuke wo.
Japanese from Japanese Porn - ninetimes - 2010-06-02
Vaguely related
Japanese from Japanese Porn - Raschaverak - 2010-06-02
smartazjb0y Wrote:Sorry, man, I must be tired or something, but I don't see how your reply to my post is even remotely relatedRaschaverak Wrote:This is a great thread, because, it will indirectly indicate what gender the forum members have....I highly doubt that female members would participate in writing in this threadI actually made a thread asking if it would be good study material. So far, what I have is just the "boring" real life part, not quite at the good stuff. If anyone wants to know, the eroge I used is Sono Hanabira ni Kuchizuke wo.
Japanese from Japanese Porn - smartazjb0y - 2010-06-02
Whoops, wrong quoted post. I guess I'm not as used to this forum as I thought.
Japanese from Japanese Porn - Javizy - 2010-06-02
There's a double-page spread in Detroit Metal City I remember that would give you about 50 useful words. You won't find a number of dirty words in the dictionary (try goo-ing 顔射 or パイズリ), so try referring to this adult dictionary if you get stuck.
If you've ever wondered how JAV could affect TV sales in Japan, check out this article. It seems to be quite popular in China too.
I think Jarvik's right about the distorted Western view of JAV. The rape genre (and all the other weird crap) can be quite disagreeable, but I wouldn't say it epitomises the entire industry, but rather shows the sort of variety it has compared to the stale and soulless Western industry. It'd be nice if they could stretch the budget just a little bit more for a disposable razor though...
Japanese from Japanese Porn - pm215 - 2010-06-02
Javizy Wrote:You won't find a number of dirty words in the dictionary (try goo-ing 顔射 or パイズリ)I'd just like to point out that those are both in EDICT :-)
Japanese from Japanese Porn - captal - 2010-06-02
Met a guy last week who said the first thing he learned to say in Japanese was パイパンして
パイパン is a girl who is shaved, so I thought it was kind of humorous that he was running around telling girls to shave.
One of the first things I learned from a Japanese female friend of mine (who's a bit umm, sexual) was that if you're having sex with a girl you should say きつきつ (from きつい I imagine?). Not sure on that one.
Japanese from Japanese Porn - sethg - 2010-06-02
Just from a Google Images search, I think きつきつ has something to do with having a タイト・アッス...
Japanese from Japanese Porn - Womacks23 - 2010-06-02
Is no one going to mention that in Japan it is socially acceptable for grown men to wack off to 11 year olds running around Bali in string bikinis?
Japanese from Japanese Porn - Jarvik7 - 2010-06-03
Womacks23 Wrote:Is no one going to mention that in Japan it is socially acceptable for grown men to wack off to 11 year olds running around Bali in string bikinis?It sounds like someone has a case of the 日本嫌いs...
Japanese from Japanese Porn - kazelee - 2010-06-03
@womacks23
Wow!
@captal
LULZ
Japanese from Japanese Porn - Javizy - 2010-06-03
Jarvik7 Wrote:I don't know about 11-year-olds, but I was watching the アメトーク with グラビア芸人 and there was a section where each of the girls introduced pictures of an idol they liked. After everyone had said セクシーですね about one of the pictures, the girl told them she was 15. The チンカット guy seemed a bit embarrassed he'd said セクシー, but nobody was asking why the hell this stuff gets published. It kind of gives you the impression that it is socially acceptable, doesn't it?Womacks23 Wrote:Is no one going to mention that in Japan it is socially acceptable for grown men to wack off to 11 year olds running around Bali in string bikinis?It sounds like someone has a case of the 日本嫌いs...
When I asked my girlfriend what she thought about 15-year-old idols, she posted the link to a DVD cover. This "idol" was 8-years-old, and despite what Womacks23 said about the bikinis, she was only wearing the bottom half. I'm guessing/hoping normal people would disapprove of this, but you still have to wonder why the hell it is even legal.
That said, グラビア isn't porn, so I disagree with Womacks.
Japanese from Japanese Porn - kame3 - 2010-06-03
Younger idols are also reasonably common elsewhere I think (Miley Cyprus, Britney Spears, Hilary Duff). Sometimes you just don't see that those girls are so young, so I can sort of understand how a guy says セクシー at first. As a sidenote, I don't see people making a problem of younger male idols (Justin Bieber, Chris Brown). Not saying this is a good trend or anything, but to me it does not seem limited to Japan (talking about boys/girls in the 15-year and older range anyway)
Japanese from Japanese Porn - Mcjon01 - 2010-06-03
I don't know what the hell a Justin Bieber is, I just know I want it as far away from my Japanese porn as possible.
Japanese from Japanese Porn - bodhisamaya - 2010-06-03
kame3 Wrote:Younger idols are also reasonably common elsewhere I think (Miley Cyprus, Britney Spears, Hilary Duff). Sometimes you just don't see that those girls are so young, so I can sort of understand how a guy says セクシー at first. As a sidenote, I don't see people making a problem of younger male idols (Justin Bieber, Chris Brown). Not saying this is a good trend or anything, but to me it does not seem limited to Japan (talking about boys/girls in the 15-year and older range anyway)The term Idol has a slightly different meaning in Japan than anywhere else in the world. My guess is that Paula, Randy and Simon won't be judging auditions in Tokyo anytime soon.
Japanese from Japanese Porn - dizmox - 2010-06-03
Womacks23 Wrote:Fun fact: Japanese people have the least amount of sex in the industrial world.I dunno, my Japanese girlfriend seems plenty accomodating. I've lived in the west my whole life but I felt more similar when it came to social values to my girlfriend than girls back home. Maybe because I grew up learning about romance from anime.
Another fun fact : I have a difficult time dating Japanese women that are not significantly westernized because of Japanese societal views on sex and intimacy.
Am I the only one here?
Japanese from Japanese Porn - kapalama - 2010-06-03
pm215 Wrote:Interesting to note that パイズリ，マンズリ, and センズリ are not in EDICT in their Kanji forms, though.Javizy Wrote:You won't find a number of dirty words in the dictionary (try goo-ing 顔射 or パイズリ)I'd just like to point out that those are both in EDICT :-)
Japanese from Japanese Porn - juniperpansy - 2010-06-03
Javizy Wrote:the girl told them she was 15. The チンカット guy seemed a bit embarrassed he'd said セクシー, but nobody was asking why the hell this stuff gets published. It kind of gives you the impression that it is socially acceptable, doesn't it?of course it is socially acceptable. It is socially acceptable in our society as well. Look at fashion models. I remember watching a documentary in the 1990's were they said the average age a fashion model (for karl lagerfied, christian dior, etc)starts at is 14-16. Our culture is just as guilty.
It's sad, but it's everywhere.
Japanese from Japanese Porn - FutureBlues - 2010-06-03
juniperpansy Wrote:Sad? Guilty? Why?Javizy Wrote:the girl told them she was 15. The チンカット guy seemed a bit embarrassed he'd said セクシー, but nobody was asking why the hell this stuff gets published. It kind of gives you the impression that it is socially acceptable, doesn't it?of course it is socially acceptable. It is socially acceptable in our society as well. Look at fashion models. I remember watching a documentary in the 1990's were they said the average age a fashion model (for karl lagerfied, christian dior, etc)starts at is 14-16. Our culture is just as guilty.
It's sad, but it's everywhere.
Because you have some distorted view that it's taking their innocence from them or somehow ruining their lives? Sorry, but kids nowadays have this thing called the internet. Assuming it's unfiltered (like it is in most homes), all it takes is one visit to 4chan for little Timmy to see scenes of uncensored gore or violence, genitalia, STDs, all kinds of smut, etc. And even then, come on. In modern industrialized countries (the very same environments that have given us such idyllic lives that we have time to decry or criticize the morality of others) these days, kids are growing up faster than ever and are exposed to sex and violence from day one. Even if you can somehow keep them away from movies, games, and/or TV that might disrupt their innocence (which I find is a funny concept to begin with, given how militant natural curiosity is at extinguishing doubts and exploring everything) you'd still have to deal with all your neighbors in short skirts and thongs, people who kiss in public, crime, the news, and hundreds of other potential things they might see on any given day in the street.
Junior idols are no different, except in this case, they are reimbursed for modeling in front of a camera and regardless of whatever morality you think you can apply to the situation in question from afar, you know that their parents have the final say on what is and isn't released (well, I suppose child pornography laws in Japan have the final say, because even if the parents agreed or were OK with going beyond a certain line, the law would still prohibit pornographic content).
(I find all the kids I teach who don't go to school, or go and don't do any work and eventually end up becoming delinquents far more "sad" than anything else in this world.)
Japanese from Japanese Porn - yudantaiteki - 2010-06-03
Even so, I think there's a difference between a kid looking at pornography on the internet, and a scantily-clad very young girl posing for photo spreads.
Go to amazon.co.jp, pick DVD search, and search for １０歳. The first thing that comes up is a DVD with a 10 year old girl in a bikini on the cover and "10歳" prominently displayed. Perhaps this is not technically pornography, but it's clearly intended for sexual gratification for the viewers (what other purpose would they have in selling it?). I don't think it's wrong to question whether girls that young should be posing for sexually-motivated material, even if they are not engaging in sexual behavior themselves.
(The reason I even know about this is that when I went to Akihabara to buy used games, these kind of DVDs were displayed prominently outside of stores, near the cash registers, etc.)
Japanese from Japanese Porn - Offshore - 2010-06-03
I don't agree with the 10 year old idol thing either. I don't live in Japan, and I don't read their news all that often, but I'm gonna make an assumption anyway. I'd rather have these guys fapping to these 10 yr old idol DVDS from the privacy of their own home, instead of actually going out and raping/molesting these girls/boys in real life...
I see a new case of child molestation every week (sometimes every few days) in the local-ish news where I live, and many of these cases regard kids who are STILL under 10. This isn't even including the ridiculous problem of the molestation cases regarding priests.
Then again, if actual child molestation is a common occurence in Japan as well, I take back what I said. Regardless, I doubt anything's gonna change anytime soon anyway.
Japanese from Japanese Porn - yudantaiteki - 2010-06-03
Well, I think it would be more along the lines of a "statuatory rape" type of law -- maybe a 16 year old can knowingly consent to be photographed for such things but I don't know about a 10 year old.
I would be surprised if access to such DVDs either reduces or increases the rate of child molestation or rape.
Japanese from Japanese Porn - kazelee - 2010-06-03
Intentional attempt to move topic into controversial territory succeeds.
>_>
Japanese from Japanese Porn - nest0r - 2010-06-03
How do actual Japanese people feel about the products in question?
Also, I wonder how Japanese audiences responded to 'Hit Girl' in that film Kick-Ass.
Japanese from Japanese Porn - masaman - 2010-06-03
I only wonder just HOW you guys became so erudite on the topic in question with which even a lot of Japanese people aren't so familiar, if you get my drift.