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Ultimate Japanese Phrasebook - sheetz - 2010-05-30
Does anyone have this book?
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/4770031009/ref=cm_rdp_product
Sounds like it's a good collection of sentences to SRS, especially for those who wish to focus on output. It even includes audio.
From the description:
Quote:Going beyond the scope of standard phrasebooks for tourists, this compact volume presents all the expressions a student, businessperson, teacher, homemaker, or other professional will need--not only to get by in Japan but also to set up a life there and make Japanese friends.
The book contains 1800 sentences organized into 19 chapters, covering almost every situation a visitor to Japan is likely to encounter, from meeting people, shopping, and getting around, to finding a place to live, getting a job, and having kids.
Ultimate Japanese Phrasebook - activeaero - 2010-05-30
Just bought it but it won't be delivered until Wed.
Ultimate Japanese Phrasebook - Tobberoth - 2010-05-30
Looks to be pretty useless sentences, stuff like "すごいね" and "ちょっとよろしいですか". Maybe there's more advanced stuff later but it just looks even more basic than a textbook.
Ultimate Japanese Phrasebook - mafried - 2010-05-30
Let us know what it's like. I've found in other languages that a phrasebook is a great introduction to a language.
Ultimate Japanese Phrasebook - Irixmark - 2010-05-30
Flipped through it at a store here and was pretty disappointed. Most of the expressions are very, very basic stuff that you pick up as you along. I do like the idea of "phrasebooks." Here's a much better one that includes most of the useful things from the "ultimate japanese phrasebook:" http://www.amazon.com/Common-Japanese-Collocations-Learners-Frequent/dp/4770031238/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1275262887&sr=8-1
No audio unfortunately.
Ultimate Japanese Phrasebook - inertia - 2010-05-31
I have this book. I got it last year because I wanted to address the gap between my comprehension and output, work on pronunciation, and basically just get my tongue and brain accustomed to having more things roll out without having to think about it too much.
The way I used it, the biggest difference I noticed was an improvement in speed and pronunciation. For example, I'd been uncomfortable trying to use って in speech because I didn't know how to make it not sound like て. After some practice following along with the book/CD, I think I've got the hang of it and do use it in conversation now. I also started to get a better feel for when certain helping verbs would be appropriate to use.
IMO this book is probably best suited to people who need to be able to do output ASAP. These types of phrases might eventually come naturally with enough input, but if you're an ordinary beginning-intermediate student whose watch just broke and you need to get it repaired tomorrow, you're going to have to go to the repair shop tomorrow and speak to the people there regardless of whether you feel your grammar is up to this or not. And yeah, you can probably muddle through and make yourself understood, but it could be slow and awkward, and maybe you'll be making grammar mistakes and poor word choices that are only getting reinforced through usage. It's nice to be able to rehearse a little for the situation with a CD.
Ultimate Japanese Phrasebook - sheetz - 2010-05-31
It's true that the sentences are quite basic, but they seem to cover a large variety of topics and include vocabulary and colloquial expressions not typically found in textbooks, which is why I think they would work well for E-J flashcards. In fact, you don't want the sentences to get too complicated or else it's too hard to go from English to Japanese.
Ultimate Japanese Phrasebook - mmhorii - 2011-02-20
I uploaded a sampler deck of the phrases and audio in this book on the Anki shared decks repository, if anyone's interested in checking it out. I really like the voice acting, particularly the male voice actor.
One caveat--sometimes the Japanese Support Anki plugin applied the wrong reading to a kanji and I didn't always catch it, so there may be a small number of errors.
Ultimate Japanese Phrasebook - SaneInsane - 2011-02-20
I don't want to sound like an idiot, but what is SRS?
Ultimate Japanese Phrasebook - Zarxrax - 2011-02-20
SaneInsane Wrote:I don't want to sound like an idiot, but what is SRS?Spaced Repetition System.
An example of this is the software Anki.
You can read an explanation here: http://ankisrs.net/docs/manual.html
Ultimate Japanese Phrasebook - SaneInsane - 2011-02-20
Oh, thank you very much!
Ultimate Japanese Phrasebook - breakies - 2011-02-20
I've got Harrap's one in french version and it's quite good. I don't know if english is similar, though, but if that helps...
http://www.amazon.com/Harraps-Japanese-Phrasebook/dp/0071482490/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1298225178&sr=8-1
edit: it seems that it has tokyo map and dictionary just like my version, so it should be the same philosophy
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Ultimate Japanese Phrasebook - mmhorii - 2011-02-20
It may not be obvious if you don't go to the OP's link, but this thread is referring to a book called "The Ultimate Japanese Phrasebook: 1800 Sentences for Everyday Use," by Kit Pancoast Nagamura and Kyoko Tsuchiya, and published by Kodansha Intl.
I would be remiss not to mention that there are one or two expletives in the phrases, so if you're easily offended by four-letter words, or you want something child-friendly, there are plenty of rated-G Japanese phrasebooks that you can acquire instead.
Ultimate Japanese Phrasebook - kerecsen - 2011-02-24
There is also an iOS App version, which is a pretty decent deal for the price in my opinion (especially when you catch a sale - I got mine for $3). The first chapters are pretty basic, but there is a good variety of topics and the voice recordings are top-notch. It also features quite a bit of natural Japanese, not just simplified textbook-language.
It's definitely not the ultimate sentence mining resource, but it's one of the most diverse that I've found so far.
Ultimate Japanese Phrasebook - mmhorii - 2011-02-25
Yes, there's an app containing the material, but it's also nice to have the unlocked content in an Anki deck so it can be accessed across platforms.
Two other nice features about The Ultimate Japanese Phrasebook:
1. It goes beyond the typical travel guidebook phrases, and provides useful dialogue that covers everything from negotiating rental fees to talking to a child. A lot of this stuff is too mundane to ever show up in a J-drama or movie, so the content is a nice way to fill in those gaps for people whose primary study material consists of J-subtitles.
2. While the bulk of the sentences are gender-neutral, in several cases there are sentences with two instantiations: a masculine version and a feminine version. It's instructive to see how the versions differ.