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A totally crazy endeavor - Khengi - 2010-05-28
Hey everyone,
So I went through Heisig to see his method and learn any Kanji I didn't pick up before starting. I'm now finished with one and three, but I need moooore (3007 isn't enough).
So, lucky for me, I crept on over to the fantastic Jim Breen and noticed that he has compiled various dictionary sources into two massive files. While I've heard that there are upwards of 50,000 Kanji in existence, however, the 12,154 found in these two files are enough for my desires, I believe. I may desire to learn every Kanji one day if I develop photographic memory
Here:
http://ftp.monash.edu.au/pub/nihongo/kanjidic.gz
And Here:
http://ftp.monash.edu.au/pub/nihongo/kanjd212.gz
No download necessary. Now, the point of this thread?
Well, I've noticed that many of the Kanji, especially on the second list, are without meaning. They are simply phonetic Kanji. What do you think is the best way of learning them?
A totally crazy endeavor - Smackle - 2010-05-28
You could try referencing some of the words they're used in.
http://forum.koohii.com/showthread.php?tid=3838
This topic is sort of relevant.
A totally crazy endeavor - Khengi - 2010-05-28
Wow, that topic is great, thanks!
A totally crazy endeavor - mezbup - 2010-05-28
Or you could just actually learn Japanese. Seriously, people and their "kanji". Congrats on finishing both RTK1 & 3 btw.
I will congratulate you again when you find a use for writing 12,000 kanji by hand.
A totally crazy endeavor - ta12121 - 2010-05-28
mezbup Wrote:Or you could just actually learn Japanese. Seriously, people and their "kanji". Congrats on finishing both RTK1 & 3 btw.lol agreed. I thought of trying to learn that much kanji as well, no need for that. 3007 is plenty. If you want to learn more, learn more in context. As much as you want!(That way, your actually learning more REAL Japanese. Not just plain 10,000's of kanji meanings,etc. I thought I was crazying for having 13,000+ sentences so far in my sentence deck/vocab deck. But if your aiming for that much kanji by itself, don't want to be mean but it's a huge waste of time when you could be learning more real japanese.
I will congratulate you again when you find a use for writing 12,000 kanji by hand.
Wait until you learn chinese, then your going to love kanji even more. Cuz you gotta know 6000 to be fluent.(Even more probably)
A totally crazy endeavor - nest0r - 2010-05-28
You should just get so good at Japanese that the only thing that can satisfy you is to be a renowned expert at every piece of Japanese literature ever. You'll learn a lot of kanji that way, in context.
A totally crazy endeavor - ta12121 - 2010-05-28
nest0r Wrote:You should just get so good at Japanese that the only thing that can satisfy you is to be a renowned expert at every piece of Japanese literature ever. You'll learn a lot of kanji that way, in context.Awesome. I;m aiming for this(probably take a few years or something to reach an ultra high-level)-Well just more context i mean, it's impossible to know everything.
A totally crazy endeavor - nest0r - 2010-05-29
ta12121 Wrote:It's not impossible unless you quit trying! ^_^ You also have to know everything about what you don't know.nest0r Wrote:You should just get so good at Japanese that the only thing that can satisfy you is to be a renowned expert at every piece of Japanese literature ever. You'll learn a lot of kanji that way, in context.Awesome. I;m aiming for this(probably take a few years or something to reach an ultra high-level)-Well just more context i mean, it's impossible to know everything.
A totally crazy endeavor - ta12121 - 2010-05-29
nest0r Wrote:definitely.ta12121 Wrote:It's not impossible unless you quit trying! ^_^ You also have to know everything about what you don't know.nest0r Wrote:You should just get so good at Japanese that the only thing that can satisfy you is to be a renowned expert at every piece of Japanese literature ever. You'll learn a lot of kanji that way, in context.Awesome. I;m aiming for this(probably take a few years or something to reach an ultra high-level)-Well just more context i mean, it's impossible to know everything.