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Erin's challenge - chelxiang - 2010-04-30
https://www.erin.ne.jp/en/
check this out, eng version of the web just released. it's really cool!
Erin's challenge - ta12121 - 2010-04-30
Sweet. this looks good so far. This is definitely geared towards beginners but there isn't anything bad about the site, it's definitely a useful site.
Erin's challenge - atylmo - 2010-04-30
Yes! So glad they released this online!
*ahem* Thanks for pointing it out.
Erin's challenge - Minlawc - 2010-04-30
Wow! That was quick, the English version was just put up today. I watched a few episodes awhile back and I enjoyed them.
Erin's challenge - Zarxrax - 2010-04-30
Wow, this looks really fun!
Erin's challenge - auxetoiles - 2010-05-01
Ah, I remember this! It was on the Japan Foundation website ages ago, but there were only five lessons and no English (which I still would've needed back then). It's pretty good now, hey? Think I might play around with it this afternoon... Cheers for the link!
Erin's challenge - nest0r - 2010-05-01
Interactive manga w/ audio. Cool.
Erin's challenge - TaylorSan - 2010-05-01
Thanks for the link! I really like it - well done. I think it would be a great site to run through before I jump into jdorama/subs2srs - perfect for my level!
Erin's challenge - aphasiac - 2010-05-01
ohmygod, this is pretty damn awesome! manga too..and Erin is meant to be British..!!
I don't really get lesson 24 though - why is the guy upset with his "special" dessert?
Edit: lesson 21 - "Erin goes to a CD rental shop and borrows a CD". huh? how expensive are CD's in Japan if there's a demand for renting?!
Erin's challenge - Nukemarine - 2010-05-01
aphasiac Wrote:Edit: lesson 21 - "Erin goes to a CD rental shop and borrows a CD". huh? how expensive are CD's in Japan if there's a demand for renting?!Yeah, I was surprised that they rent CD's at Tsutaya. Even the CD's are expensive. Put it this way, a 13 episode season of a TV show can be almost 250 dollars to buy brand new. I might be wrong, but a CD can be 30 dollars or more.
Erin's challenge - JimmySeal - 2010-05-01
aphasiac Wrote:Edit: lesson 21 - "Erin goes to a CD rental shop and borrows a CD". huh? how expensive are CD's in Japan if there's a demand for renting?!Usually 2500-3500yen each ($27-$37 with today's exchange rate). Newly released movies on DVD are about 4000 yen.
Erin's challenge - tregingigan - 2010-05-01
Wah! Thanks for the link.
I wanted to buy this course on DVD some time ago but it was already sold out.
Erin's challenge - aphasiac - 2010-05-01
JimmySeal Wrote:Hmmm.. super-expensive media + crazy fast internet connections - surely Japan has a massive internet piracy problem by now?aphasiac Wrote:Edit: lesson 21 - "Erin goes to a CD rental shop and borrows a CD". huh? how expensive are CD's in Japan if there's a demand for renting?!Usually 2500-3500yen each ($27-$37 with today's exchange rate). Newly released movies on DVD are about 4000 yen.
Erin's challenge - wccrawford - 2010-05-01
Quote:your registration has been completed and move to top page after 3 seconds... Translation gone awry!
I'm sure it was supposed to say "Your registration has been completed" and then redirect to the front page after 3 seconds. (It does do the redirect also, despite the translation mishap.)
Erin's challenge - lagwagon555 - 2010-05-01
This looks absolutely great. I'd die for any subtitled Japanese media with accurate translations, and having it designed for learners is fantastic. Thanks for posting the link
Erin's challenge - sethg - 2010-05-01
I take the Japanese courses at my Uni (GPA booster, makes me look better to the study abroad office, etc) and my teacher, who is unfortunately usually forced to teach us from Genki started showing these one Fridays and I was frankly shocked at how natural and real the dialogues were. That's so unusual for a learning resource, but in these clips, they're really speaking Japanese... like the Japanese themselves speak it.
Blew my mind. Good work and so cool that it's free!
Erin's challenge - Kewickviper - 2010-05-01
Wow this is an amazing resource! Especially since I'm only a beginner it's really helpful!
Erin's challenge - Hero of Time - 2010-05-04
Wow! I like how it's natural Japanese, not textbook Japanese. No, those colloquial Japanese textbooks don't teach you real Japanese, although I always mine them for sentences anyway. Maybe that's why Genki is getting boring...
Erin's challenge - Zarxrax - 2010-06-25
Sorry to bump this thread, but has anyone mined this for sentences yet?
I'd kinda like to do it, but I really hate manually creating new cards in anki...
Erin's challenge - ta12121 - 2010-06-25
sethg Wrote:I take the Japanese courses at my Uni (GPA booster, makes me look better to the study abroad office, etc) and my teacher, who is unfortunately usually forced to teach us from Genki started showing these one Fridays and I was frankly shocked at how natural and real the dialogues were. That's so unusual for a learning resource, but in these clips, they're really speaking Japanese... like the Japanese themselves speak it.Agree. The best way to learn, after all the formal stuff is out of the way. Is real dialogue, real communication.
Blew my mind. Good work and so cool that it's free!
Erin's challenge - ta12121 - 2010-06-25
Zarxrax Wrote:Sorry to bump this thread, but has anyone mined this for sentences yet?Agreed, but I've actually been adding my own words/sentences. But monolingual. I've been noticing that the words I don't know/how to read are decreasing quite a lot.
I'd kinda like to do it, but I really hate manually creating new cards in anki...
Erin's challenge - yudantaiteki - 2010-06-25
The videos are interesting; unfortunately even the "basic" dialogues are actually somewhat advanced but maybe I can use this with my more advanced students.
I think the main problem with them is that, at least in lesson 1, the dialogue is very specific to Japanese high school students (and a teacher)...a lot of the material in there wouldn't be all that useful to an adult or even college student. The translations/notes don't really point out specifically which parts of the dialogue are inappropriate outside of that specific context of a high school foreign exchange student coming to a Japanese school. The pitfall of "real Japanese" is that if you don't have a good handle on exactly what's going on, it's easy to try to use the "real Japanese" yourself and end up using it in the wrong situations.
I also feel like the delivery of the lines and the portrayal of the characters is more like actors in a televised drama rather than real Japanese people in the same situations (and some of the scenes themselves are more like scenes from a TV show than something that would ever occur in real life). One thing I like about the Japanese: The Spoken Language videos (which have become unfortunately dated) is that the "acting" is very natural; the participants seem like actual Japanese people rather than actors playing roles. (Although no scripted/written conversation, no matter what the source, will ever be "real Japanese" in the sense of being exactly like a conversation between two Japanese native speakers. This is true of any language, though.)
Erin's challenge - Aijin - 2010-06-26
Very cute website! I could see it as being a supplement to other studies, but I don't understand how they believe beginners could truly learn from it. In lesson 1 the grammar is already well above a complete beginner! And a lot of the vocabulary being used is definitely not something beginners would know 「合唱」for example. If someone who had no previous experience with Japanese tried to learn just using this, they would understand nothing and get no where.
But I admire the cuteness factor
Erin's challenge - sikieiki - 2010-06-26
yudantaiteki Wrote:The videos are interesting; unfortunately even the "basic" dialogues are actually somewhat advanced but maybe I can use this with my more advanced students.Speaking of which, I absolutely hate every japanese drama I have seen because the acting is so awkward and scripted, in an extremely predictable and cheesy way. Are there any very simple series I can get that arent like this?
I think the main problem with them is that, at least in lesson 1, the dialogue is very specific to Japanese high school students (and a teacher)...a lot of the material in there wouldn't be all that useful to an adult or even college student. The translations/notes don't really point out specifically which parts of the dialogue are inappropriate outside of that specific context of a high school foreign exchange student coming to a Japanese school. The pitfall of "real Japanese" is that if you don't have a good handle on exactly what's going on, it's easy to try to use the "real Japanese" yourself and end up using it in the wrong situations.
I also feel like the delivery of the lines and the portrayal of the characters is more like actors in a televised drama rather than real Japanese people in the same situations (and some of the scenes themselves are more like scenes from a TV show than something that would ever occur in real life). One thing I like about the Japanese: The Spoken Language videos (which have become unfortunately dated) is that the "acting" is very natural; the participants seem like actual Japanese people rather than actors playing roles. (Although no scripted/written conversation, no matter what the source, will ever be "real Japanese" in the sense of being exactly like a conversation between two Japanese native speakers. This is true of any language, though.)
Erin's challenge - mentat_kgs - 2010-06-26
90% of the specific material is not specific. Plain old simple Japanese.
This Erin series seems so cute, awesome for beginners.