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Nukemarine's Suggested Guide for Beginners - muteki99 - 2013-09-06

undead_saif Wrote:I agree, it's noticeable, thank you Nuke Smile

But sometimes I find very strange words for a beginner, like 交通費, early in the deck. Not many though!
The readings for those first two Kanji are all over the place in that part of the deck and after. That's whats so great about it!

Nukemarine's Suggested Guide for Beginners - uisukii - 2013-09-07

undead_saif Wrote:But sometimes I find very strange words for a beginner, like 交通費, early in the deck. Not many though!
I suppose it could be strange for a beginner, although こうつう has already been nicely introduced, with 費 being the only real unknown. Taking into account 交通事故, with the concept of traveling (movement; passage, with 通, although different reading) covered in this respect, it sort of gels together pretty easily.

Well, that's my evangelism on the topic, lol. Wink

Nukemarine's Suggested Guide for Beginners - uselectme - 2013-09-10

First of all, big thanks for these resources. I love you all.

I have an issue with the Core 2k/6k Optimized Japanese Vocabulary shared Anki deck: The furigana within brackets in the cloze field is annoying. Example: the card for 三 さん renders like this:

彼女[かのじょ]は子供[こども][...]人がいる。

Id like the furigana within the brackets to be rendered as normal furigana above the "kanojo" and "kodomo" instead of as in the example above. How can I fix this? Im using Anki 2.0.12

Nukemarine's Suggested Guide for Beginners - uselectme - 2013-09-10

Another issue I have with the Core 2k/6k Optimized Japanese Vocabulary shared deck is the media files on AnkiDroid. Ive downloaded the deck to my Ankidroid and unzipped the media files to the collection.media folder on my device but the media wont play. On my PC the media files work fine.

Nukemarine's Suggested Guide for Beginners - gdaxeman - 2013-09-10

uselectme Wrote:Id like the furigana within the brackets to be rendered as normal furigana above the "kanojo" and "kodomo" instead of as in the example above. How can I fix this? Im using Anki 2.0.12
You have to install the Japanese Support addon (3918629684) and then the furigana renders correctly.

Nukemarine's Suggested Guide for Beginners - uselectme - 2013-09-10

gdaxeman Wrote:
uselectme Wrote:Id like the furigana within the brackets to be rendered as normal furigana above the "kanojo" and "kodomo" instead of as in the example above. How can I fix this? Im using Anki 2.0.12
You have to install the Japanese Support addon (3918629684) and then the furigana renders correctly.
I needed to add furigana: inside the {{Clozed-Sentenze}} field like so {{furigana:Clozed-Sentence}}, after doing that it worked. I dont know whether the plugin was necessary or not because another field already showed furigana correctly, it was only the clozed sentence field that didnt.

As for the media, actually the images work, but the sounds do not play. I think this may be related to there being so many of them in the same folder. Does anyone know how to tell ankidroid to use different folders for media?

Nukemarine's Suggested Guide for Beginners - PkmnTrainerAbram - 2013-09-11

I'm having a delima with what to do next:

-I have 47 hours clocked in on my Core 6000 Deck, with 1011 words exposed to.

-I have 27 hours clocked in to RTK 3000 Kanji, with 27 hours, and 1571 Kanji exposed to(though I have finished RTK 1, so really it's 2200 Kanji I've been exposed to).

-I have a specialist deck with videogame vocab I have with 34 hours logged in. I'm going through a process where I am adding in sound files from the game to sound out the names of things and texts. Most is written in katakana, which is weak compared to my hiragana as I can only write half of them out while I can write anything in hiragana.

-And Tae Kim with an astonding 1 hour logged in.(I can understand most of the Core sentences I've seen so far, unless the vocab itself is kicking my ass)

So according to the suggested guide on the first page, I have 109 study hours to compare to the recommended 80 hours in the Beginner's Level.

I study for about 40 mins to an hours each day, but I still don't feel like I can use what I've learned with natural ease. Honestly if I don't remember a card in 2-5 seconds or the word/kanji is hazy at all, I hit hard and move on. My reviews are 300-500 a day.

I want to add in more vocab to get to 2000 words, but to be honest, most of the new vocab I've learned is having a HELL or a time sticking. Most times I hit Hard on the word even if I know the word sounded out but the kanji is anywhere near hazy in my mind, so I've been SRSing it without adding for 2 weeks and improvement in remembering those hasn't improved much.

I also want to finish up the RTK deck. I don't even remember most of the stories anymore, I remember the kanji as it looks now. As with vocab, it it is hazy at all, I hit hard, and I've been cycling back through so many that it takes no time at all to get this deck outta the day.

With both of these decks, if I add around 33 a day, I could reach my goal of hitting 2000 words or finish up with seeing all 3000 or so kanji in the RTK books in about a month. With the specialist vocab, it's only 600 terms, so if I focus on 100 a day, I could have that done in 3 days, and the vocab is really place, item, monster names as well, but it's not looking as useful as getting the other two down pat first.

My goal in getting to 2000 words is learning to use all that and write on Lang 8 everyday. Ofcourse, I mainly want to read and play games too, so maybe finishing RTK and the specialist deck should come first? Or maybe I'm wrong and should do grammar or focus on increasing my daily reviews until I can get the 1011/1500 facts down pat completely before adding anything else?

I don't know what to do now. I'm not burned out, but I feel like I've made it too easy now since my review time is less than an hour each day.

Nukemarine's Suggested Guide for Beginners - gdaxeman - 2013-09-11

uselectme Wrote:I needed to add furigana: inside the {{Clozed-Sentenze}} field like so {{furigana:Clozed-Sentence}}, after doing that it worked. I dont know whether the plugin was necessary or not because another field already showed furigana correctly, it was only the clozed sentence field that didnt.
So maybe the plugin was not necessary Smile I don't know, if you want to you could test it by removing it from the addon folder; maybe it could help future users avoid installing something unnecessary.

uselectme Wrote:As for the media, actually the images work, but the sounds do not play. I think this may be related to there being so many of them in the same folder. Does anyone know how to tell ankidroid to use different folders for media?
I don't use Ankidroid, but if the problem is too many files in a single directory then there's something about it in the FAQ:
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I have too many media files and can't copy them all to my device

Unfortunately there is a limitation on the number of files which can be stored in one folder on the FAT filesystem used on many Android devices.

One possible workaround for this problem (requires root access), is to format the external SD card with an alternative filesystem such as NTFS, and use a 3rd party app capable of mounting this filesystem (for example from Paragon).

While not officially supported, a second possible solution may be to organize your media files into subfolders. Of course it is also necessary to update your notes to include the reference to the subfolder.
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Note: They mention NTFS but exFAT is often a better option for external cards, and it supports a maximum of 2,796,202 files per directory according to Wikipedia. You don't mention what Android device you have, but some newer ones (e.g., the ones by Samsung and HTC) support exFAT for the microSD cards with no need to root anything, so that could be a better option; you just have to use Windows to format the card with that filesystem.

Nukemarine's Suggested Guide for Beginners - uselectme - 2013-09-12

uselectme Wrote:I needed to add furigana: inside the {{Clozed-Sentenze}} field like so {{furigana:Clozed-Sentence}}, after doing that it worked. I dont know whether the plugin was necessary or not because another field already showed furigana correctly, it was only the clozed sentence field that didnt.
Actually the furigana renders correctly on my Ankidroid so I cant see how the plugin must be necessary.

uselectme Wrote:As for the media, actually the images work, but the sounds do not play. I think this may be related to there being so many of them in the same folder. Does anyone know how to tell ankidroid to use different folders for media?
Actually I was stupid- on my Android the sound archives (but not the image archive) creates folders inside the collection.media folder. I cut and pasted all the files from the subfolders withing the collection.media folder into the actual colletion.media folder and now the sounds work too!

Nukemarine's Suggested Guide for Beginners - KanjiCrosser - 2013-09-20

I am having some trouble properly implementing images and sound into the Core 2k6k Optimized Japanese Vocabulary deck. I have read that the files, downloaded from the first page, need to be placed in a folder named "[deckname].media". However, after I created the folder "Core_2k6k_Optimized_Japanese_Vocabulary.media" and placed it in the Anki folder in my Documents, the files could not be properly loaded. I noticed some cards had images on them and some didn't, which was really peculiar, so I thought the images had came with the deck already and therefore were not actually loaded. I thought to take the audio files out of their folders (inside the .media folder) to see if that would do anything but nothing resulted from that. I also moved the whole .media folder from the Anki folder in my Documents to the Anki folder under Program Files, however, that also resulted in nothing happening. I checked the sound file names for individual cards in Anki to see if I had even downloaded them, but they were all there. I'm confused as to what the cause of this problem is.

Also, I am having trouble with making furigana appear for this deck with the Japanese support add-on. In Anki I went to Tools >> Add-ons >> Browse & Install and put in the code "3918629684" to download the add-on, but no furigana is appearing, just the same annoying square bracketed hiragana. I'm not sure if I either don't have Japanese support properly installed or do have it installed but for some reason have no furigana appearing. I would appreciate some help with this.

Nukemarine's Suggested Guide for Beginners - Stian - 2013-09-20

Did you remember to format it as:

{{furigana:YOURFIELD}}

in the card layout editor?

Nukemarine's Suggested Guide for Beginners - KanjiCrosser - 2013-09-20

I didn't know that you had to input that bit of code to get furigana to show--I thought it just appeared automatically. Well, now the furigana works. Thanks for your help.

Nukemarine's Suggested Guide for Beginners - Nikkk - 2013-09-27

I have some questions about the deck, but first I would like to thank Nukemarine for the guide and everyone else trying to help in this thread.

I have downloaded the two decks recommended: "Core 2k/6k Optimized Japanese Vocabulary" and "Tae Kim's Guide to Japanese Grammar" but I just can't figure out what is the proper way to sort them. I have read the replies from this thread but I still don't get it.

Taking a look at the spreadsheet, for the "Core 2k/6k Optimized Japanese Vocabulary" deck it appears that I need to sort them by the "Optimized-Voc-Index" field?

Also about the "Tae Kim's Guide to Japanese Grammar" deck, I have sorted it by the "Notes" field and it starts with 001 Advanced Topics, 001 Basic Grammar... 002 Advanced Topics, 002 Basic Grammar, etc. Obviously this is not the proper way to study them.

Hopefully I can get some help on how to sort them properly so I can start studying them,as I have spent the last few days trying to figure things out but I haven't been able to.

Nukemarine's Suggested Guide for Beginners - muteki99 - 2013-09-27

You are correct on the core deck sorting.

For the Tae Kim deck if you sort on "Due" it should give you what you want. Actually that is what I typically use in both cases. The browser in Anki is not very intuitive.

Nukemarine's Suggested Guide for Beginners - Nikkk - 2013-09-27

Thanks muteki99 for verifying the core deck sorting for me.

I have also tried the "Due" sorting for the Tae Kim deck and that works just fine, thanks! Indeed it's not intuitive at all, I would have never thought of using the "Due" sorting to get the result that I wanted.

Nukemarine's Suggested Guide for Beginners - datrukup - 2013-10-04

Hi friends, this is an amazing deck!

I have been able to get the furigana to render properly. However, does anyone know a quick fix to making the furigana not render on the front card (so I can get good reading practice) and only appear on the backside. I'm sorry if this is another obvious question for the Anki whiz's out there.

Nukemarine's Suggested Guide for Beginners - SomeCallMeChris - 2013-10-05

In 'styling (shared between cards)' I have,
Code:
ruby rt { font-size:15px; opacity:0.0; }
ruby rt:hover { opacity:0.5; }

.cardback ruby rt { opacity:1.0; }
On the back of the card, I have
Code:
{{FrontSide}}

<hr id=answer>
<span class=cardback>
... everything that I want on the back of the card ...
</span>
Furigana is invisible except on mouseover on the front, visible on the back.

Nukemarine's Suggested Guide for Beginners - datrukup - 2013-10-05

SomeCallMeChris Wrote:In 'styling (shared between cards)' I have,
Code:
ruby rt { font-size:15px; opacity:0.0; }
ruby rt:hover { opacity:0.5; }

.cardback ruby rt { opacity:1.0; }
On the back of the card, I have
Code:
{{FrontSide}}

<hr id=answer>
<span class=cardback>
... everything that I want on the back of the card ...
</span>
Furigana is invisible except on mouseover on the front, visible on the back.
You've made my week!

Nukemarine's Suggested Guide for Beginners - spleenlol - 2013-10-14

Was there previously a km thread link?
I see it's greyed out on NukeMarine's first post on this page.

Nukemarine's Suggested Guide for Beginners - pmnox - 2013-10-14

Where do I go after finishing core 6k?

Nukemarine's Suggested Guide for Beginners - RawToast - 2013-10-16

spleenlol Wrote:Was there previously a km thread link?
I couldn't find one on here last time I checked. There are kanzen master decks on ankiweb; personally, I was going to cover a

These are for kanzen master 1-2

https://ankiweb.net/shared/decks/%E5%AE%8C%E5%85%A8%E3%83%9E%E3%82%B9%E3%82%BF

There are cards for km 3 in this deck, you just need to search by the tags and delete the rest of the sentences:
https://ankiweb.net/shared/info/193943699

The KM3 deck is quite handy as km3 glosses over N5 and N4 points very quickly with more advanced vocabulary, so some nice revision.

Quote:Where do I go after finishing core 6k?
I'd imagine the world of native material with rikaisama holding your hand. NHK News Easy should be easy enough at that point or you could move on to manga and visual novels.

There is a core 10k you can pull the extra 4k of vocab from or you could take a look at some JLPT decks; but you might as well just add words from context.*

*Note, I haven't completed core 6k. So this is just my view from reading many related threads.

Nukemarine's Suggested Guide for Beginners - pinguchan - 2013-12-10

Hi there,

Thank you so much Nukemarine for creating the decks, the guides and this forum. It is really great and helpful. It must have taken you a long time.

I am having trouble with the media files for the core 2000 and 600 vocab and sentences on my pc.

I have recently started using Anki. I am completely new to Anki and there are still many things I do not understand yet.

I recently imported several decks. Most of the decks have sounds attached to the cards and these sounds play fine. For the core 2000/6000 deck, I downloaded the files and then unzipped them into the collection.media folder as instructed. However the sounds will not play nor the images appear. I have clicked on the check media command, but that hasn't helped. What I am doing wrong??

Any assistance would be warmly appreciated. I have looked around on various forums but have found no clues so far.

Kind regards,

Pingu

Nukemarine's Suggested Guide for Beginners - learningkanji - 2013-12-23

I'm doing reviews online on ankiweb so how do I add the audio files for core2k/6k optimized?

Nukemarine's Suggested Guide for Beginners - batheusbaula - 2013-12-24

I have one question: according to this guide, at the beginner level, I should study "RTK using 2001KO 1-555 Kanji". The Kanji in RTK and KO2001 are presented in different orders, so how am I supposed to study that? Go through all of RTK, then go through KO2001, or learn the radicals presented by RTK, then learn the Kanji in the order presented by KO2001? Or none of the above?

Thanks in advance.

Nukemarine's Suggested Guide for Beginners - Nukemarine - 2013-12-28

batheusbaula Wrote:I have one question: according to this guide, at the beginner level, I should study "RTK using 2001KO 1-555 Kanji". The Kanji in RTK and KO2001 are presented in different orders, so how am I supposed to study that? Go through all of RTK, then go through KO2001, or learn the radicals presented by RTK, then learn the Kanji in the order presented by KO2001? Or none of the above?

Thanks in advance.
You learn them in Remembering the Kanji order, but you skip kanji that aren't in the first 555 kanji of the 2001.Kanji.Odyssey group.

Remembering the Kanji is a great order to learn kanji. 2k1KO is a great order to learn vocabulary. The guide is set up to take advantage of both.