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Nukemarine's Suggested Guide for Beginners - pen0id - 2012-08-11

frony0 Wrote:@nukemarine Is there a particular reason why your Optimized Core2k/6k deck has only 5999 facts?

Edit: Or anyone else who knows...
Maybe this. Maybe not.

http://forum.koohii.com/showthread.php?pid=165069#pid165069


Nukemarine's Suggested Guide for Beginners - frony0 - 2012-08-11

I don't think so - that card I created wasn't a dupe, it was just missing, I found it from comparing kore.txt and the deck on ankiweb. Even if you export the deck to csv (or "tsv") and grep/search for 生ずる, nothing comes up, not even sentences.


Nukemarine's Suggested Guide for Beginners - Nukemarine - 2012-08-11

Hmm, the very last word was deleted. No idea why that happened. Good detective work though.


Nukemarine's Suggested Guide for Beginners - frony0 - 2012-08-11

Thanks Smile


Nukemarine's Suggested Guide for Beginners - xanan66 - 2012-08-12

So, which one of all the decks should I start with?

Core 2k6k optimized

japanese core 200 step 01

Core 200 japanese vocabulary

smart fm japanese core 200 step 1


I'm at beginner level.


Nukemarine's Suggested Guide for Beginners - frony0 - 2012-08-12

From what I can tell, Core 2k6k optimized is the one to watch, though add the missing card I just mentioned.


Nukemarine's Suggested Guide for Beginners - xanan66 - 2012-08-12

And how do I do that? Long time since I used anki, srry for the stupid question Smile

And while I'm at it, is there anyway to remove the english, or so it's only visiable when I hover my mouse over it, my eyes tends to read the answer in english first instead of hiragana Sad


Nukemarine's Suggested Guide for Beginners - frony0 - 2012-08-12

xanan66 Wrote:And how do I do that? Long time since I used anki, srry for the stupid question Smile

And while I'm at it, is there anyway to remove the english, or so it's only visiable when I hover my mouse over it, my eyes tends to read the answer in english first instead of hiragana Sad
No problem! To add, see the large green plus on the far left of the browser screen. I don't have the time right now to give you the markup for the second part, but I'm sure someone else can help you out there


Nukemarine's Suggested Guide for Beginners - xanan66 - 2012-08-12

Is it just for me, or some cards in the 2k deck missing sounds?


Nukemarine's Suggested Guide for Beginners - frony0 - 2012-08-12

You'll have to ask nukemarine, but I think I remember reading somewhere that the media isn't all there... Also for mouseover cards, off the top of my head you can use

<span style="color:white" onmouseover="this.style.color='black';" onmouseout="this.style.color='white';">{{Hint}}</span>

or for click-reveal:

<span style="color:white" onclick="this.style.color='black';">{{Hint}}</span>


Nukemarine's Suggested Guide for Beginners - xanan66 - 2012-08-12

I found where to add the code, but I don't get it to work, where in the code do I input the code u gave me?

{{Vocabulary-English}} {{Vocabulary-Pos}}

{{Sentence-Clozed}}

{{Caution}}

{{Sentence-Image}}

{{Sentence-English}}


Nukemarine's Suggested Guide for Beginners - frony0 - 2012-08-13

To get to the card layout screen, open the browser and click the card layout button just above the fields. Then replace {{Sentence-English}} with
Code:
<span style="color:white" onmouseover="this.style.color='black';" onmouseout="this.style.color='white';">{{Sentence-English}}</span>
or
Code:
<span style="color:white" onclick="this.style.color='black';">{{Sentence-English}}</span>
And the same for any other field you like. It's just a wrapper.


Nukemarine's Suggested Guide for Beginners - xanan66 - 2012-08-14

Is there a way to remove the kanjis? I mean in the begning there are only hiragana, but then there is a question without sound and mostly in kanji, and I don't know any kanjis so Would be awesome if the question always only was in hiragana so I atleast can read it.


Nukemarine's Suggested Guide for Beginners - frony0 - 2012-08-14

I don't think there are many facts for hiragana-only vocab, but I think if you sort by the expression field, the kana should form a separate group to the kanji; then it's as simple as suspending the kanji-based cards.


Nukemarine's Suggested Guide for Beginners - xanan66 - 2012-08-14

Yeah, cause some cards there is no sounds, and mostly kanjis. So I don't get why it's like that if you don't how to read kanji, then you have to guess or look up the kanjis. Guess I'm lazy


Nukemarine's Suggested Guide for Beginners - xanan66 - 2012-08-14

Like instead of

京都にはお寺が多い。

It would be better (for me) if it was just

きょうと に は おてら が おおい

Cause there is no sounds and lots of kanjis there that I don't know. well well Smile

I'm going to start intergrated course in elementary japanese with genki in 2 weeks (universitety program) so hopefully using core2k, pimsleurs, and the course will help me get a good foundation in japanese


Nukemarine's Suggested Guide for Beginners - xanan66 - 2012-08-14

Thx, got it to work.

Think I be staying with japanese core 2000 step 01. in 2k6k optimized there are to many cards without any sound, kinda hard to know how to say it if you only can read it, hope there can be sounds for all the cards in the future.


Nukemarine's Suggested Guide for Beginners - frony0 - 2012-08-14

xanan66 Wrote:Thx, got it to work.

Think I be staying with japanese core 2000 step 01. in 2k6k optimized there are to many cards without any sound, kinda hard to know how to say it if you only can read it, hope there can be sounds for all the cards in the future.
I can't agree with that now... Japanese is syllabic, there's no ambiguous pronunciation anywhere! Perhaps you're counting tones... I wouldn't know about that.


Nukemarine's Suggested Guide for Beginners - xanan66 - 2012-08-14

Well maybe, But still it's much easier to learn something if you hear it and read it then just read it (at least for me)

Is core 2000 step 01 not good at all?

I just need to get myself started, and there are so much out there, and on the same time I don't want to start with something and then half way through someone says "why you waste time on that when this is so much better" Tongue


Nukemarine's Suggested Guide for Beginners - kitakitsune - 2012-08-14

Why do you have so many cards without sound?

They should all have sound, you download the right core deck with the media?


Nukemarine's Suggested Guide for Beginners - xanan66 - 2012-08-15

Core 2k6k optimized doesn't have sounds for some, or for like 30% or the cards I started with.

Even if it's not about how to pronounce it, it's still easier (for me) to learn if I both hear it and read it then just read it.


Naru, kore, sore, etc all those first basic cards don't have sound. Must I download something else? removed it and redownloaded but still no sound for it.

Other decks work.


Nukemarine's Suggested Guide for Beginners - leonl - 2012-08-15

xanan66 Wrote:Core 2k6k optimized doesn't have sounds for some, or for like 30% or the cards I started with.

Even if it's not about how to pronounce it, it's still easier (for me) to learn if I both hear it and read it then just read it.


Naru, kore, sore, etc all those first basic cards don't have sound. Must I download something else? removed it and redownloaded but still no sound for it.

Other decks work.
I am having this problem with Core 2k6k deck as well


Nukemarine's Suggested Guide for Beginners - xanan66 - 2012-08-15

Fixed it, I didn't dl the 3 files , audio, pictures, vocab etc. Awesome now it works Smile


Nukemarine's Suggested Guide for Beginners - nilfisq - 2012-08-16

I am happy that - as a newbie to Anki - I finally managed to get all the necessary decks up and running. However, I still have two questions:

[1] Is it possible to find/make a list which gives the 2K1 kanji in Heisig order? I know how to do it in Anki ('Filter 2K1 1' and 'Sort by Heisig number') but I don't know how to print that list. I need an offline version in order to know which Heisig kanji I need to learn next. I tried to do this in iNumbers (Mac) but without success.

[2] In my iOS version of Anki, the questions of the Core 2k/6k Optimized Japanese Vocabulary-deck show up without furigana. The furigana in the answers are fine. If, from within the card, I click on the gear and then edit > preview, the furigana are there as they should be. Earlier in this topic they were referring to this page: http://ankisrs.net/docs/AnkiMobile.html#_tweak_furigana, but this is abracadabra for me. I downloaded SGLite Database Browser for MAC, but I did not find the record called "furiganaType". I hope somebody can help. I don't understand why this must be so complicated for a relatively expensive app.

Have a good day!


Nukemarine's Suggested Guide for Beginners - xanan66 - 2012-08-18

How do you guys learn through anki? just plow through it and hope some stick?

THe first 30 or 40 was easy, but now when I review like 20 and get 10 new that I don't know at all. How do I help to make them stick? review over and over or maybe start to write them down? any tip?