Nukemarine's Suggested Guide for Beginners

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Nukemarine's Suggested Guide for Beginners - Revenant - 2011-10-22

さっぱり分からないよ~
Maybe I better be making my own Deck from scratch, with random stuff
I throw at it ~~
No fancy audio, tho.

E: I believe it is this one: Core 2k6k Japanese Vocabulary - Beginner

Nukemarine's Suggested Guide for Beginners - Nagareboshi - 2011-10-22

Revenant Wrote:さっぱり分からないよ~
Maybe I better be making my own Deck from scratch, with random stuff
I throw at it ~~
No fancy audio, tho.

Not necessarily. There is a software called TTS App that, together with voices you can find being on sale on the Internet, allows you to create and save audio files. On this website you can find more resources that offer text 2 speech functionality.

Revenant Wrote:E: I believe it is this one: Core 2k6k Japanese Vocabulary - Beginner

I've been downloading this deck to see what is going on. There is a deck-model called Reading but it is empty. What you can basically do is to either costumize the other two models, by changing the fields in the deck-properties, or you can export the text, audio, ... fields and import them to a new deck. Or you export the fields reading, audio, ... enable the Reading model, and Import the fields.

Whatever you are going to do, you will still have to learn the cards, before you start reviewing them. So you can very well start with your own deck, and import cards from this deck, once you came up with an appropriate deck model. If this is too complicated for you, you can start thinking of creating your own deck, and fill it with random content. Or you choose to work with a book, or Audio books, KO.2001 or Kanji Odyssey for instance.

Nukemarine's Suggested Guide for Beginners - Pauline - 2011-10-23

Nagareboshi Wrote:
Revenant Wrote:E: I believe it is this one: Core 2k6k Japanese Vocabulary - Beginner
I've been downloading this deck to see what is going on. There is a deck-model called Reading but it is empty. What you can basically do is to either costumize the other two models, by changing the fields in the deck-properties, or you can export the text, audio, ... fields and import them to a new deck. Or you export the fields reading, audio, ... enable the Reading model, and Import the fields.

There is a simpler way to populate an empty template (Reading is a template; Core_2k_6k Japanese is the model) in Anki than exporting and importing.

Open the card browser. Choose the filter "Dictation" and select a card (or all cards) and click on File>Create card (or the icon with a small green arrow). In the dialog that comes up, mark "Reading" and click "Ok". Choose the filter "Reading" and you will see the new card(s).

Nukemarine's Suggested Guide for Beginners - eggcluck - 2011-10-23

While I am not familiar with that particular core deck, I did down load different one that had a seperate deck for each step of the core. They also came with the sound and pictures no additional downlads. In that one the flieds were seperate though I had no need to edit as they were already what I wanted ( Kanji as question side and with seperate cards ( blank question) for listening. It did have seperate vocab cards too, but I just deleted all them, I only wanted the sentences and audio.

Nukemarine's Suggested Guide for Beginners - Revenant - 2011-10-23

Well, I've already got a lot of listening practice, so basically
I'm mostly in for the probably "correct" sentences.
Building a Deck myself, it probably has a lot of merits in itself.

I'll use certain vocabulary lists in combination with Lang-8 and Tatoeba websites, to build
a vocabulary and a sentence Deck.

Nukemarine's Suggested Guide for Beginners - jonuhey - 2011-10-23

Just download each individual core step under the anki shared decks. They have 5 ways to test each word, being that each step have around 200 facts (1000 cards total for each step).

The only problem with these decks is if you are doing them a bit fast, you will suddenly have 5+ decks to study and review.

Nukemarine's Suggested Guide for Beginners - astendra - 2011-10-23

You may know this already, but rikaichan is one of the most useful tools in building a deck, since you can hover your mouse over words in your browser and hit 'S', which saves them to a file in a format ready to be directly imported into Anki. The modified rikaisama is a bit more flexible and allows you to add a sentence field, and also has a real-time import feature.

Good luck Smile

Nukemarine's Suggested Guide for Beginners - Revenant - 2011-10-23

I love Rikaichan, so Rikaisama made me chuckle =3
Thanks all~

E: What I'm doing now is that I exported the Core6000 from the CorePLUS deck and made my own Core6000 with the audio etc.
Now I'm learning a word and usually take the sentence that comes in the answer and make a card for it in my own deck. So I get the reading practice from those sentences. While I transfer the sentence I look up some of the Kanji I don't remember completely etc.

Not sure how this will do. I am running both decks in parallel for reviews.

Nukemarine's Suggested Guide for Beginners - ryuudou - 2011-11-06

Bumping just to show my support.

Nukemarine's Suggested Guide for Beginners - ryuudou - 2011-12-29

Bumping.

Nukemarine's Suggested Guide for Beginners - Octorok - 2011-12-30

small problem
I am on the 2nd step of intermediate, and in the middle of reviewing Changed the leech treshold. Then suddenly the furigana on the answer field turned out all weird.

example:思い -- 必死[ひっし]の思[おも]いで彼[かれ]に頼[たの]んだよ

the sentence is displayed exactly like this and the furigana does no longer appear above the kanji and instead inside the [ ]. If anyone have the time to help I'd be overjoyed Smile

Nukemarine's Suggested Guide for Beginners - SomeCallMeChris - 2011-12-30

I'm assuming that's in Anki, because that's exactly how furigana Anki cards would appear if the Japanese plugin was not working. Make sure that you didn't change any template or field names (the plugin will ignore cards that have wrong names). If you didn't change anything like that, then remove and reinstall Anki (including the 'reading' package and the Japanese plugin.)

I didn't have any problem with my decks still being in the right place when I removed and reinstalled, but of course, it would be prudent to both sync to the server and make a backup copy of your decks.

Nukemarine's Suggested Guide for Beginners - Octorok - 2011-12-31

just reinstalled it, won'be fingering as much this time Big Grin

Nukemarine's Suggested Guide for Beginners - ryuudou - 2012-01-04

Does anyone know if this method would work using the KanjiDamage deck and unsuspending cards based on the specific order he said to do them in?

Nukemarine's Suggested Guide for Beginners - lardycake - 2012-01-08

Bit of a nab question here...

Here is a screenshot of my screen: http://i.imgur.com/AFCiW.jpg

Is that random square at the beginning of the answer of the card meant to be there? Or is something missing?

I have imported the images and sound so am not sure what it could be...

Nukemarine's Suggested Guide for Beginners - mikankun - 2012-01-21

edit: nevermind

Nukemarine's Suggested Guide for Beginners - ryuudou - 2012-02-06

Can anyone make a mirror for "Core 2k Sentence Images"? The link Nukemarine posted was megaupload..

Nukemarine's Suggested Guide for Beginners - gdaxeman - 2012-02-06

ryuudou Wrote:Can anyone make a mirror for "Core 2k Sentence Images"? The link Nukemarine posted was megaupload..

Here: core2k-image.munged.rar (72.24 MB)
http://www.mediafire.com/?q5h5efqms3oo137

Nukemarine's Suggested Guide for Beginners - ryuudou - 2012-02-06

gdaxeman Wrote:
ryuudou Wrote:Can anyone make a mirror for "Core 2k Sentence Images"? The link Nukemarine posted was megaupload..
Here: core2k-image.munged.rar (72.24 MB)
http://www.mediafire.com/?q5h5efqms3oo137

Thanks. If Nukemarine ever comes back with that update he was talking about I'm sure he'll be happy about this mirror too.

Nukemarine's Suggested Guide for Beginners - Kyuukon - 2012-03-22

I'm sorry, can someone please re-upload the image files please? The above link has expired Sad

Nukemarine's Suggested Guide for Beginners - Nukemarine - 2012-03-22

Ouch, ok, I'll see if I still have the images saved. Now, I've been away for awhile, so I have to ask: Does Anki allow us to upload audio and images onto the server now? If so, that'll save a lot of heart ache. Instead of having 6 seperate Anki files, just one large file with directions on unsuspending in segments.

Anyway, if someone has the orginal image and audio files (both sentence and word) in a non-munged format, that'd be great. I'll try to work with that and Cangy's sorting algorythm to have a much more adaptable Anki deck.

Nukemarine's Suggested Guide for Beginners - overture2112 - 2012-03-22

Nukemarine Wrote:Ouch, ok, I'll see if I still have the images saved. Now, I've been away for awhile, so I have to ask: Does Anki allow us to upload audio and images onto the server now?

Anki 2 alpha 7 added a packaged deck format that combines media with the deck.

So once Anki 2 gets a stable release you can take advantage of that.

Nukemarine's Suggested Guide for Beginners - Nukemarine - 2012-03-23

Ok, here's the spreadsheet I'll use to update the Anki files. How I organized it:

1. iKnow Core files from Cangy's anki site
2. Removed spurious columns
3. Organized by Core index
4. Made column for three main divisions (Core 400, Core 2k, Core 6k)
5. Used Cangy's sorting program to sort both by Vocabulary and by Sentence (Vocab-KO-Index and Sent-KO-Index)
6. Sorted each main division by Cangy's kanji sort.
7. Sorted those further by evenly spreading out kana only vocab or sentences.
8. Created an optimal index based on that (Opt-Voc-Index and Opt-Sen-Index).
9. Primary learning order will be optimal vocabulary

Here's the final file: Kore 2k/6k Optimal Indexes

Now, if someone can give me an unmunged set of audio and images, I can add those columns. After that, it's a simple matter to create the Anki files.

Nukemarine's Suggested Guide for Beginners - Kyuukon - 2012-03-23

^ Thank you!! Big Grin

That's very useful though could you please explain how to set it up after importing it into Anki to a noob (me xD)? I mean, what kind of template should I use (I only have 'Basic' and 'Japanese' but it's way too limited :\)? Do you have any recommended template/config? For example: what is going to be in the Front/Back of the card or I'd better say how do you use it/what's the better way of using it?

Sorry, I'm not very into this (I just finished RtK1 and want to get into this reviewing thing). Like I said before I'm a **** noob even my English is bad xD

Nukemarine's Suggested Guide for Beginners - mikankun - 2012-03-23

Kyuukon Wrote:I'm sorry, can someone please re-upload the image files please? The above link has expired

http://www.mediafire.com/?nrvpcx9a766nh1t