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My study method (Study pack included) - Aijin - 2010-02-17
I clicked on the last page of this thread and read it without reading the other pages, so it sounded like a drug deal or some secret-agent-code to me.
My study method (Study pack included) - nest0r - 2010-02-17
Aijin Wrote:I clicked on the last page of this thread and read it without reading the other pages, so it sounded like a drug deal or some secret-agent-code to me.You a cop? If yer a cop you gotta say so, that's the law.
My study method (Study pack included) - nest0r - 2010-02-17
Oops, my hand slipped while typing and I found something else to avoid. As you can see, I marked this mistake for posterity, so be sure to not click that link. All it takes is an 8-digit alphanumeric code, inserted into an innocent URL that rhymes with 'sega pup toad' and you've crossed the line.
My study method (Study pack included) - Grinkers - 2010-02-17
You should probably try taking a typing class. I recommend googling for free typing material, and telling us the results.
My study method (Study pack included) - PkmnTrainerAbram - 2010-02-17
Wasn't sure if I should have made a separate thread or not on this but here is my first post in awhile.
I had no idea this "Rikai" extension exsisted and I feel stupid for that.
Now that THAT is out of the way, how should I effectively use it?
I use Iknow for my SRSing and maybe I'm just slow, but I only have 1200 words stuided in about...2 years, while other people have like 5000-10000+ in under half my time.
....>_<
I started doing 5 words per study session and I can do that in 5-8 minutes. It is just faster than doing 10 words per session for me. I used to write out full sentences and speak them, now I just write out the target words and speak the sentence.
I can say basic stuff, I find that I am better at saying and understanding sentences that describe an action or thing better than anything else. But I don't know how to go about studing now. I started using word lists more and like that method of doing 5-7 words at a time, but do not use them in sentences and let Iknow do that for me.
I don't intend on SRSing these books, but I do intend on reading them with Rikai chan. How should I go about reading these? Write out every sentence an speak it while translating all on paper or just say everything out loud on the first pass and go and mine sentences for study on the second pass?
I feel really sluggish at this point.
My study method (Study pack included) - captal - 2010-02-17
Read the book in firefox while using Rikaichan- if you find a word you don't know, highlight it and use either the C or S hotkey (copy or save). If you are using copy just copy that entry into the Rikai.html file. I wouldn't spend a lot of time trying to memorize the word at the time- that's kind of the point of this system- the ability to go fast yet record the things you don't know. Later on when you are done reading go through the list of words you've copied or saved and perhaps consider finding sentences to put in your SRS. Or do whatever you want with it.
As you read through a book you'll find the author using the same vocabulary over and over, so you'll end up copying more words at the beginning than at the end- it's also a judgment call on how much to copy. I tend not to copy specialist vocabulary or things I think I won't see very often because I have too much to focus on right now.
A quick question for those using this method... how do you save where you are in the book? I've accidentally closed my browser or restarted my computer and have to figure out where I am again.
My study method (Study pack included) - PkmnTrainerAbram - 2010-02-17
Good idea to ignore specialist vocab at this point.
Going through this now speaking and barely made it past the Table of Contents for one of the books. Oh well, this will improve over time I guess. Too bad there isn't some speech thing to go along with this.
Joking.
And a question for the topic creator. How long have you been using this and what level(how many words you knew) were you when you first started this compared to where you are now?
My study method (Study pack included) - iSoron - 2010-02-17
captal Wrote:A quick question for those using this method... how do you save where you are in the book? I've accidentally closed my browser or restarted my computer and have to figure out where I am again.The HTML converter posted at that other thread (and later revised) creates anchors for each paragraph, so you can bookmark them.
My study method (Study pack included) - captal - 2010-02-17
iSoron Wrote:Any pointers on using those files- I'm not sure what to do with it to convert the files I have.captal Wrote:A quick question for those using this method... how do you save where you are in the book? I've accidentally closed my browser or restarted my computer and have to figure out where I am again.The HTML converter posted at that other thread (and later revised) creates anchors for each paragraph, so you can bookmark them.
My study method (Study pack included) - raseru - 2010-02-18
Well, for me, I usually copy a sentence then paste it in the bookmark's description under properties. When I start again, I just ctrl+f and go straight to it.
Firefox remembers where you are as long as you restore the pages though.
I wanted to add html to my files so it remembered the scroll position but I couldn't figure it out
I did find this site though
http://radio.javaranch.com/pascarello/2005/07/18/1121709316718.html
which is exactly what we'd want, but it is just a small div scroll thing or whatever. I just want the main page to be remembered
(maybe someone here knows how to do it or at least convert this code)
My study method (Study pack included) - captal - 2010-02-18
Thanks raseru- I didn't think about the possibility of bookmarking a file on my computer with Firefox. That works just fine.
How do you go about reviewing your list each night? Just give it a read through?
My study method (Study pack included) - raseru - 2010-02-18
As in my anki list? Or the rikai page?
For anki, I just grab sentences straight from the book, paste them in with definitions of the words I don't know.
For the rikai page, that is more for everything I do. All words I come across through books/games/internet I stick in there. I then will have a huge list of words. I review them like you would any normal list. I try reading/understanding the first 3-5, if I screw up, do it again, then do the next 3-5 after that, then try all 6-10, and move on. This is the best way to cram for me tbh. Like if you need to cram a bunch of words from a game, or just a book/site with a lot of jargon, I find you can memorize 50 to even 200 words in a day through this method with only an hour or two. What I do after that usually depends on if I'm lazy or not. I might wipe it clean, I may keep it open for a few days to review in the morning/night, or I even add all of them to anki (anki is great for memorizing long term, but not great for cramming new words like the rikai page is imo)
I suppose you could even get an anki vocab deck from somewhere and start reviewing it through the rikai page first then see how fast you smoke through it with anki (I'd imagine it'd be at least twice as efficient. Just export a txt list of the deck or something)
My study method (Study pack included) - captal - 2010-02-18
I meant the rikai page- I'm no good at cramming words- even when I use things like an Iverson list. I need so much exposure that it eventually settles in so I was trying to figure out the best way to review the words that I save to my rikai file (I find it easier just to press S and move on and then open the document later).
Right now I'm only using Anki for KO2001 to fill in holes that I have, but even going through 150-200 reviews a day it's taking me a while to get through it. I'm finding it extremely worthwhile though.
My study method (Study pack included) - raseru - 2010-02-18
You can get good at cramming, you just got to figure out how to cram efficiently and it may depend on each person.
I have no idea what an Iverson list is. If it deals with randomizing the order like anki (srs, but still) or flashcards, then I think it's not a good method. I don't believe words should be learned in random orders. I think you're better off figuring out how long your brain can go while properly remembering words and just staying in control. Learning stuff like anki is 10 minutes a card. I personally think it should be more along the lines of 20-30 seconds and work its way up. You could probably do that with anki too (besides working yourself up as there's not enough buttons), but I still rather have control, like if they're easy words, then maybe 2 minutes
My study method (Study pack included) - genini1 - 2010-02-18
An Iverson list is a wordlist method created by a guy named Iverson on the HtLAL forum. The basic premise is to take 5-7 words in one column memorize them all and then write their translation in the next column. You then cover the first column and try to do the reverse translation. After that you move on to the next 5-7 words and after a while you come back to the beginning and try to retranslate from the last column you made. It's a way to learn a large amount of vocab as fast as possible.
My study method (Study pack included) - raseru - 2010-02-18
ah cool, better than I thought
My study method (Study pack included) - wccrawford - 2010-02-18
raseru Wrote:Well, for me, I usually copy a sentence then paste it in the bookmark's description under properties. When I start again, I just ctrl+f and go straight to it.That's actually pretty cool. I'm fiddling with it to see what I can come up with.
Firefox remembers where you are as long as you restore the pages though.
I wanted to add html to my files so it remembered the scroll position but I couldn't figure it out
I did find this site though
http://radio.javaranch.com/pascarello/2005/07/18/1121709316718.html
which is exactly what we'd want, but it is just a small div scroll thing or whatever. I just want the main page to be remembered
(maybe someone here knows how to do it or at least convert this code)
My study method (Study pack included) - wccrawford - 2010-02-18
Try this at the head of the document:
<html>
<head>
<meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=UTF-8">
<script type="text/javascript">
window.onload = function(){
var strCook = document.cookie;
if(strCook.indexOf("!~")!=0){
var intS = strCook.indexOf("!~");
var intE = strCook.indexOf("~!");
var strPos = strCook.substring(intS+2,intE);
document.getElementsByTagName("body")[0].scrollTop = strPos;
}
}
function SetDivPosition(){
var intY = document.getElementsByTagName("body")[0].scrollTop;
document.title = intY;
document.cookie = "yPos=!~" + intY + "~!";
}
</script>
<style>
body {
white-space:pre-wrap;
margin:20px;
overflow:auto;
height: 300px;
}
</style>
</head>
<body onscroll="SetDivPosition()">
My study method (Study pack included) - raseru - 2010-02-19
Awesome job, works great. Now I don't have to copy the stupid text anymore to remember, lol.
My study method (Study pack included) - wccrawford - 2010-02-19
It's worth noting that the above bookmarking method uses a cookie. That means that if your browser clears cookies when you close it, you'll lose your place.
However, the author built in a nice thing that shows the scroll location in the browser's titlebar, so you can just remember the number and scroll there manually if it gets lost.
My study method (Study pack included) - superliman - 2010-04-04
I have an odd problem, when I try to unrar the 269MB Ultimate Study Pack.rar, the UnRarX program I use on Mac OS seems to run forever and the only folders that ever get extracted are Harry Potter and Haruhi.
Anyone maybe know what the issue is? I've tried downloading it a few different times as well.
My study method (Study pack included) - intermu - 2010-04-04
Oh.
Wow.
Just what I'm looking for, learning from light novels.
I've a question on how to actually convert .txt to .html (sorry if it's been discussed before, please point me to the right post then).
I have some Index raws that I acquired from somewhere over the wilderness of the internet, and I'm wondering how do you make that searchable from rikaichan.
I'll be trying the method over the next few days, cheers!
My study method (Study pack included) - Sebastian - 2010-04-04
Just open the .txt files directly within Firefox and you can use Rikaichan with them, just as if they where .html files.
My study method (Study pack included) - Sebastian - 2010-04-04
captal Wrote:A quick question for those using this method... how do you save where you are in the book? I've accidentally closed my browser or restarted my computer and have to figure out where I am again.I don't use this method and I haven't read but the last posts of this thread, so forgive me if my answer is not what you need.
There is an extension for Firefox called Wired-Marker that would probably be useful for you.
Quote:*What is Wired-Marker?
Wired-Marker is a permanent indelible highlighter that you use on Web pages. The highlighted content is automatically recorded in a bookmark and also able to go back quickly to where you highlighted with the “electronic book mark”. The color and the font of the marker are editable anytime. To use Wired-Marker, you simply drag and drop the selected sections into a bookmark folder. You can highlight not only text but also pictures, tables, and selected portions of the screen. You can even add notes to the highlighted items.
*Use as an "indelible highlighter" on Web pages
After highlighting with Wired-Marker, the highlighted sections remain visible on the page when you revisit. You won't be lost of where the important content was on your bookmarked page because the marker remains. You can customize as many markers as you want with different colors and fonts to organize different information.
*Use as an electronic bookmark
Often, the information that you require is a single phrase or a single keyword, even in an important document. You can use Wired-Marker to bookmark specific positions in a Web page by using XPath instead of only using the URL. By using Wired-Marker, you can directly jump to the position of interest in a long page or paragraph.
*Use as a scrapbook folder
Sections and pictures are automatically copied when they are highlighted. Thus, a scrapbook is automatically generated without any additional operations. Unlike the usual copy-and-paste operation, the URL and coordinate in a page are also recorded; thus, the source of the item in the bookmark is clear, and this facilitates the organization of the collected data. You can also add notes to the bookmarked items.
*Use as a browsing tool for collected sentences
Highlighted sentences will automatically be saved. You can distinguish sentences on the web page and collect them in folders at the same time. List of highlighted sentences is available for editing, so it is easy to make an abstract of each sentence.
My study method (Study pack included) - balloonguy - 2010-04-05
@Sebastian
I've been looking for an extension like this for a long time, thanks!