Those less motivated to achieve will excel on tasks seen as fun

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Those less motivated to achieve will excel on tasks seen as fun - nest0r - 2010-01-20

http://www.labspaces.net/101549/Those_less_motivated_to_achieve_will_excel_on_tasks_seen_as_fun

"Those who value excellence and hard work generally do better than others on specific tasks when they are reminded of those values. But when a task is presented as fun, researchers report in a new study, the same individuals often do worse than those who are less motivated to achieve."

Those less motivated to achieve will excel on tasks seen as fun - Tobberoth - 2010-01-20

This is the first of your posted articles that I find genuinely interesting. This one I might actually read because that's one hell of an interesting conclusion.

Those less motivated to achieve will excel on tasks seen as fun - nest0r - 2010-01-20

Tobberoth Wrote:This is the first of your posted articles that I find genuinely interesting. This one I might actually read because that's one hell of an interesting conclusion.

Thanks... no, wait...

Those less motivated to achieve will excel on tasks seen as fun - kazelee - 2010-01-20

nest0r Wrote:
Tobberoth Wrote:This is the first of your posted articles that I find genuinely interesting. This one I might actually read because that's one hell of an interesting conclusion.
Thanks... no, wait...

ROFL

Those less motivated to achieve will excel on tasks seen as fun - Sebastian - 2010-01-20

Tobberoth Wrote:This is the first of your posted articles that I find genuinely interesting. This one I might actually read (...)

Isn't by chance your last name Scrooge?

Those less motivated to achieve will excel on tasks seen as fun - atylmo - 2010-01-20

nest0r Wrote:
Tobberoth Wrote:This is the first of your posted articles that I find genuinely interesting. This one I might actually read because that's one hell of an interesting conclusion.
Thanks... no, wait...

Don't worry nesty, I appreciate you Tongue

Those less motivated to achieve will excel on tasks seen as fun - nest0r - 2010-01-20

*Sniff* みんな...

Those less motivated to achieve will excel on tasks seen as fun - mattimus - 2010-01-20

がんばって！！

Those less motivated to achieve will excel on tasks seen as fun - Grinkers - 2010-01-21

How do you find all these articles? They all seem to be of different subjects, from different locations, etc.

Aren't you supposed to be studying Japanese? Rolleyes

Those less motivated to achieve will excel on tasks seen as fun - nest0r - 2010-01-21

mattimus Wrote:がんばって！！

Thanks for indulging my Densha Person dorama moment.

Those less motivated to achieve will excel on tasks seen as fun - nest0r - 2010-01-21

Grinkers Wrote:How do you find all these articles? They all seem to be of different subjects, from different locations, etc.

Aren't you supposed to be studying Japanese?

I think most of the stuff I've posted are from Labspaces or Sciencedaily, now that I look. Though I have a few hundred live bookmarks framing my Firefox window (I use a few addons to streamline it) and a few hundred more RSS feeds in an aggregator program--that's after honing them and my reading habits down over the years. I think there's probably a half dozen sites that I end up finding interesting articles from on a very regular basis.

Those less motivated to achieve will excel on tasks seen as fun - wccrawford - 2010-01-21

That study is horribly flawed. -sigh-

For the instance where the motivated student does worse on the 'fun' project, they didn't tell him that the results matter, and they just declared it to be 'fun'... And what if he didn't find it to be fun? Tell him it's fun -and- important and he'll do better than the other student, I'm sure.

The motivated student doesn't fail because he's wired wrong, he fails because he wasn't told there was anything to fail at and he doesn't waste his energy on it.

Now, should the exercise actually have been -fun- to him, he probably would have done better, even if he wasn't told that it was graded.

Those less motivated to achieve will excel on tasks seen as fun - kazelee - 2010-01-21

This is part of the reason I can't respect an individual simply because he/she has published x amount of papers. Quality over quantity motherf****az.

Those less motivated to achieve will excel on tasks seen as fun - Codexus - 2010-01-21

wccrawford Wrote:The motivated student doesn't fail because he's wired wrong, he fails because he wasn't told there was anything to fail at and he doesn't waste his energy on it.

The point is that some people reacted differently to the same situation. In this case, the individuals identified as belonging to the group labeled, somewhat arbitrarily, "motivated students" performed worse than the others. Why is that? That's the interesting part. If they didn't think the task was fun or worth putting energy into while the others did, why?

Those less motivated to achieve will excel on tasks seen as fun - nest0r - 2010-01-21

Here's a link to the study: http://www.psych.uiuc.edu/~dalbarra/pubs/The%20Effects%20of%20Chronic%20Achievement%20Motivation.pdf

The effects of chronic achievement motivation and achievement primes on the activation of achievement and fun goals via: http://albarracin.socialpsychology.org/

Abstract: This research examined the hypothesis that situational achievement cues can elicit achievement or fun goals depending on chronic differences in achievement motivation. In four studies, chronic differences in achievement motivation were measured and achievement-denoting words were used to influence behavior. The effects of these variables were assessed on self-report inventories, task performance, task resumption following an interruption, and the pursuit of means relevant to achieving or having fun. Findings indicated that achievement priming (vs. control priming) activated a goal to achieve and inhibited a goal to have fun in individuals with chronically high-achievement motivation, but activated a goal to have fun and inhibited a goal to achieve in individuals with chronically low-achievement motivation.

Those less motivated to achieve will excel on tasks seen as fun - bodhisamaya - 2010-01-21

The definition of what having fun is on an individual level could be a tricky variable.

Those less motivated to achieve will excel on tasks seen as fun - nest0r - 2010-01-21

bodhisamaya Wrote:The definition of what having fun is on an individual level could be a tricky variable.

Indeed, though going through the paper, the operative definition of fun takes this into account, not merely through defining the term relative to goal-oriented/free-flowing exercises and self-reporting parameters, but in terms of the focus on perception, priming variables and 'framing' (i.e. "others found this fun"). The conclusions of the paper itself are more of a call for further expansion of definitions to incorporate variable individual concerns, rather than focusing on rigid archetypes.