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Thread for cool people who do 100+ a day. 30 kanji people stay out. - BooTheGhost - 2010-01-13

I've been doing 100 kanji a day for the past week and I realized how awesome I am. Everyone else that is as awesome as I am should gather in this thread so we can talk about our achievements. Worthless slacker 30 or 50 kanji a day users stay out of this thread we do not need you bringing us down. This is only for the smart people.

Thread for cool people who do 100+ a day. 30 kanji people stay out. - chameleoncoder - 2010-01-13

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That rushing noise you hear in the distance is the flood waters of impending reviews.

Seriously though, I only was able to be this awesome once or twice during RTK. Does that mean I can at least lurk?

Thread for cool people who do 100+ a day. 30 kanji people stay out. - BooTheGhost - 2010-01-13

Sure welcome aboard. I respect your determination.

Thread for cool people who do 100+ a day. 30 kanji people stay out. - mirina - 2010-01-13

While you peons learn your pathetic 100 kanji a day, I'll be finishing my 100th kanji for the hour.

Thread for cool people who do 100+ a day. 30 kanji people stay out. - Blank - 2010-01-13

That's nothing. I routinely learn this many kanji in this amount of time.

Thread for cool people who do 100+ a day. 30 kanji people stay out. - spleenlol - 2010-01-13

lol i did that and then finals came up with school and i wasn't able to really review for like a week or so. and my cool 100 kanji a day piled up in reviews. hahaha and my recollection rate wasn't too hot... but i'm just about caught up now though Wink

Thread for cool people who do 100+ a day. 30 kanji people stay out. - yudantaiteki - 2010-01-13

My goal was the whole 大漢和辞典 in a month, so I did 1667 kanji a day. I studied about 8 hours a day so I only had to learn 3.5 kanji a minute. If you can't handle that you're not cut out to learn Japanese.

Thread for cool people who do 100+ a day. 30 kanji people stay out. - ruiner - 2010-01-13

Certain genders and artsy types can't do this, but I just learned kanji w/o even trying, I just jumped into reading a Japanese book each day and picked up all the words in context, without studying or SRSing or anything. Don't even bother if you're lazy and stupid like everyone but me is.

Thread for cool people who do 100+ a day. 30 kanji people stay out. - mirina - 2010-01-13

yudantaiteki Wrote:My goal was the whole 大漢和辞典 in a month, so I did 1667 kanji a day. I studied about 8 hours a day so I only had to learn 3.5 kanji a minute. If you can't handle that you're not cut out to learn Japanese.
I did something like that in my first three days of learning Japanese so I could pass JLPT 1.

Thread for cool people who do 100+ a day. 30 kanji people stay out. - ta12121 - 2010-01-13

@yudantaikei.
damn that's alot of kanji. 1667 daily? I'd go insane if i did that. Although i did do 100 kanji per day. But obviously some days i would take it easy and just review them all. I only went up to like 3115 kanji as of now. Took me 3 months to do 3007 kanji. I know but it's seriously so hard to finish it all in a month. So it kinda was like 100 per day,50,30 sometimes. Then 100 per day again. Until i finished it.

I'm more focused on doing context of real Japanese. More effective i guess than just meanings by themselves. I wouldn't mind learning more meanings to the kanji. But you know there's like 80,000 kanji in existence. NO NEED TO LEARN THAT MANY. If you learned 6000 kanji that'd be more than enough. Would anyone know places to download such decks that contain more than 3000 kanji? Example 漢字検体(kanji kentai)

Thread for cool people who do 100+ a day. 30 kanji people stay out. - BooTheGhost - 2010-01-13

I see you are all the jealous types. I am upset that you can not be more supportive of the gift god has given me and other members who do 100+ a day but it seems you are going to let your envy get in the way of our conversation.

Thread for cool people who do 100+ a day. 30 kanji people stay out. - Aijin - 2010-01-13

I didn't learn kanji. Kanji learned me.

Thread for cool people who do 100+ a day. 30 kanji people stay out. - ta12121 - 2010-01-13

@Aijin
lol nice way of saying it. It is kinda true. The more i exposed myself to kanji and Japanese as a whole. My kanji skills adapted to it so fast. all those meanings, all those contexts. It all linked together. The more kanji the better! 漢字は凄いね皆さん？

Thread for cool people who do 100+ a day. 30 kanji people stay out. - spleenlol - 2010-01-13

Aijin Wrote:I didn't learn kanji. Kanji learned me.
hahahaha

Thread for cool people who do 100+ a day. 30 kanji people stay out. - kazelee - 2010-01-13

Aijin Wrote:I didn't learn kanji. Kanji learned me.
Hey! That's my line.

天才ちゃん Wrote:geeks!
Lawl.

100+/day is for underachievers, cashiers, and lawyers.

Instant learning is the stuff Language Gods are made of.

Thread for cool people who do 100+ a day. 30 kanji people stay out. - Nukemarine - 2010-01-13

Yeah, the post is in jest but just to ask a serious question: How many hours per day are you using to learn these 100 new kanji on top of reviewing.

Cause if you're taking 8 hours to learn/review 100 new kanji per day and another is taking 2 hours to learn/review 25 new a day then there's no real difference. You're just using more time per day.

Kind of like someone bragging they ran three miles today. I usually ask them how fast. Or if they said they ran an hour today, I ask them how far. Without a rate to help determine intensity, you're not telling me anything. Cause going three miles in one hour ain't working out, it's walking a mile and a half to work and back.

PS: then there's the difficult part (to RTK'rs) of attaching those kanji to actual Japanese vocabulary words to really count as learning kanji or at least to be a Kanji God at Kanken 3 on the DS.

Thread for cool people who do 100+ a day. 30 kanji people stay out. - BooTheGhost - 2010-01-13

I usually spend about 2 and a half hours on 50, and then like an hour and a half reviewing. Then I go and do another 50. So I guess you're right.

Thread for cool people who do 100+ a day. 30 kanji people stay out. - Aijin - 2010-01-13

I suppose I have mixed feelings on the question of time versus talent.

A pianist who practices 6 hours everyday becoming a virtuoso, versus a student who practices 30 minutes per day remaining an amateur, for example. If the one who practices 6 hours a day is learning at the same rate as the amateur, and simply getting tenfold as much training in, should that be considered a product of "talent"?

In my experiences 'talent' doesn't exist as much people conceive it. Skills are simply a byproduct of the mechanisms of our environment; variables such as time, devotion, necessity, interest, efficiency of technique, etc.

But a disparity in skill resulting from time is still a disparity nonetheless.

During my life my peers have often called me "talented" for being literate in four languages, getting perfect scores on every test, and generic things like that. But I am not any more talented than they are. My parents raised me to be as optimal as possible in my life time; I have a 21 hour schedule of studying and other related things, and am used to sleeping only 3 hours per night to maximize my productivity. That's only possibly because a lack of work, support by my parents, and developing with that lifestyle though.

So a student who spends 8 hours studying kanji might not be more innately gifted at learning than one who spends an hour a day, but I think that the disparity in erudition should still be recognized. In cases where people are spending 8 hours of their day to learning rather than watching TV, I think that initiative and efficient use of their time should be acknowledged as a 'talent' of sort.

I am not sure how much sense this post will make. Kinda' just started typing out my train of thought Tongue (Why do they say TRAIN of thought? Where did that English term originate? What was the equivalent before trains were invented?)

Thread for cool people who do 100+ a day. 30 kanji people stay out. - BooTheGhost - 2010-01-13

That was a pretty fascinating post. How could you spend 3 hours a day sleeping and still have the concentration to study languages? I sleep like 10~11 hours a day and have trouble staying awake studying as it is. Perhaps I have a disorder. I envy you.

Thread for cool people who do 100+ a day. 30 kanji people stay out. - kazelee - 2010-01-13

Aijin Wrote:I am not sure how much sense this post will make.
Perfect. I've come to a similar conclusion (and been called bad things for it).

Aijin Wrote:Kinda' just started typing out my train of thought Tongue (Why do they say TRAIN of thought? Where did that English term originate? What was the equivalent before trains were invented?)
I think it's French.

BooTheGhost Wrote:I sleep like 10~11 hours a day and have trouble staying awake studying as it is. Perhaps I have a disorder. I envy you.
Perhaps it's because you're sleeping 10-12 hours per day. After 7-8 hours you're doing yourself a disservice.

Thread for cool people who do 100+ a day. 30 kanji people stay out. - jajaaan - 2010-01-13

Pssh! 100 a day? I did that many each day before breakfast and still worked a full-time job and had an active social life. Anyone who can't do 200 per day is spending too much time on the forums.

Lol, not really. If you are able to do 100 per day, retain 80% or more of the kanji you learned, keep up with reviews... all the way up to the 2042 mark, and not forget instantly when you miss a day of reviewing, then I think you're totally sugoi!

Thread for cool people who do 100+ a day. 30 kanji people stay out. - Thora - 2010-01-13

Smile
BooTheGhost Wrote:we do not need you bringing us down.
Quote:I see you are all the jealous types.
You forgot one: We are actually so blindly negative that we are incapable of seeing any possible in good in anything. Mediocrity in denial. You should pity us.

hey, Nukemarine: Do you by any chance have a stop watch in your bedside table and graph paper on the wall above your headboard? Wink

Thread for cool people who do 100+ a day. 30 kanji people stay out. - sethg - 2010-01-13

kazelee Wrote:I think it's French.
Yeah. "en treine de" I think... but I could be wrong. I took classes to learn French Tongue

Thread for cool people who do 100+ a day. 30 kanji people stay out. - Aijin - 2010-01-14

BooTheGhost Wrote:That was a pretty fascinating post. How could you spend 3 hours a day sleeping and still have the concentration to study languages? I sleep like 10~11 hours a day and have trouble staying awake studying as it is. Perhaps I have a disorder. I envy you.
I'm sure we all have a disorder of some sorts; high chance of mutation is one of the joys of having complex mammalian brains Smile Woohoo for being human!
I have chronic pain which prevents me from sleeping for more than 3 hours, and also keeps me from being sleepy. It's a benefit in a way, I suppose.

Thread for cool people who do 100+ a day. 30 kanji people stay out. - BooTheGhost - 2010-01-14

Depressing stuff. Can't you just load up on sleeping pills like the rest of modern America? I don't think I'd be able to take it oh man the humanity.