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Help with Bimoji for the DS? - kapalama - 2010-01-07
I got Nintendo Bimoji because I was told that I could pick a kanji, write it, and have the program tell me what is wrong with my writing.
But in using it, it seems that Bimoji tells me what to write. I already have Kakitori-kun which I stopped using because it does not let me pick the kanji I want to practice writing.
What I am looking to do is use a DS tool with RTK so that I can practice writing newly learned Kanji. I want to be able to draw the kanji and have the program show me proper stroke order and critique my writing.
I have a lot of bad habits that came from teaching myself to write from written forms, and I would like to break them by focusing on specific kanji.
Help with Bimoji for the DS? - igomadness - 2010-01-14
http://xn--wgv71a119e.heilling.net/dsbi-moji-toreningu
Found this guide, Apparenlty you can get to a point where you enter your own kanji to practice, but the menu option is only available after you do your 3 daily kanji.
Help with Bimoji for the DS? - Jarvik7 - 2010-01-14
Err, kakitorikun does let you pick the kanji to write.
Help with Bimoji for the DS? - igomadness - 2010-01-14
I am a beginner who is still working on RTK1. I haven't learned any readings or vocab containing Kanji yet, so navigating around the dosen or so kanji DS titles I have is a bit hit or miss.
What I really want, is a software tool for computer or NDS that would give some feedback about stroke order as I quiz myself on RTK.
Any suggestions?
Help with Bimoji for the DS? - Tobberoth - 2010-01-14
Sounds like you need Kakitori-kun.
Help with Bimoji for the DS? - fugu68 - 2010-01-16
Note that there are 2 versions of kakitori-kun out there. Version 1 covers just the kanji taught in elementary school, whereas the newer one covers all the Joyo kanji. The interface is a bit slicker on version 2 and has more drills, but there is an important difference which makes some of the quizzes in version 1 better for beginners.
If you want to use the "kanji drills" (i.e. word production from kana->kanji, where they give you the kana) quizzes, the original version is better suited to beginners, as it allows you to progress grade by grade. The later version lumps all 6 elementary grades together.
For example, the very first kanji drill in version 1 of the software tests words like 'kodomo' and 'inu', whereas the first kanji drill in version 2 tests words like 'saibou' and 'bunretsu'.
So, for beginners wanting just to practise writing (stroke order etc.), I'd go for version 2. If you want to do the kana-kanji drills, you would probably be better off with version 1.
Help with Bimoji for the DS? - kapalama - 2010-01-22
fugu68 Wrote:Note that there are 2 versions of kakitori-kun out there. Version 1 covers just the kanji taught in elementary school, whereas the newer one covers all the Joyo kanji. The interface is a bit slicker on version 2 and has more drills, but there is an important difference which makes some of the quizzes in version 1 better for beginners.From that description, I don't know which one I have. My Kakitori-kun is graded but does include all the way through high school.
It lets you choose which one to practice, but you have to search through all the grades to find the one you want to practice.
What I need is something like the NowPro Nazotte Oboeru Otona no Kanji Rensyuu (that has apparently been discontinued outside of Japan) that allows me to write a Kanji, which it then gives me the practice on writing.
In other words I want to write a Kanji, have the machine recognize it, then criticize my writing on it. The Now Pro does that, but it is way too easy, and does not give good feedback and hints.
Help with Bimoji for the DS? - kapalama - 2010-01-22
Jarvik7 Wrote:Err, kakitorikun does let you pick the kanji to write.
Tobberoth Wrote:Sounds like you need Kakitori-kun.What I want is the Kakitori-kun function without having to hunt through the grade levels for the Kanji I want to practice.
Kakitori-kun is great for what it does as far as criticizing and suggesting, but it ends up being a long way around to find the Kanji I want to practice, because it is separated into the Japanese grade levels, and I have no idea which grade level any given Kanji is in.
Help with Bimoji for the DS? - Tobberoth - 2010-01-22
kapalama Wrote:Just search for the kanji on jisho.org, it tells you which grade it's a part of.Jarvik7 Wrote:Err, kakitorikun does let you pick the kanji to write.Tobberoth Wrote:Sounds like you need Kakitori-kun.What I want is the Kakitori-kun function without having to hunt through the grade levels for the Kanji I want to practice.
Kakitori-kun is great fro what it does, but it ends being a long way around to find the Kanji I want to practice, because it is separated into the Japanese grade levels, and I have no idea which grade level any given Kanji is in.
Since all Japanese people learn the kanji in grades and since those softwares are made for those kids, you're going to have problems finding such a program not using the grade categories.
Help with Bimoji for the DS? - kapalama - 2010-01-22
Tobberoth Wrote:Just search for the kanji on jisho.org, it tells you which grade it's a part of.That was the sort of end around I was hoping to avoid.
Since all Japanese people learn the kanji in grades and since those softwares are made for those kids, you're going to have problems finding such a program not using the grade categories.
I don't have regular internet access where I study so I cannot really do that all the time. I was just hoping to go straight to the writing practice instead of having to search around. Unfortunately even after you know the grade level you still have up to six screens to scroll through to find the one sometimes in Kakitori-kun.
Ah well.