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garment - vinniram - 2009-12-02
god I hate this kanji sometimes... the different forms are all so hard to keep in mind when it's used as a primitive
I hope there won't be more like this later in the book.
garment - wildweathel - 2009-12-02
並、衣、長 are the three most difficult primitives I can think of. 並 is, in my opinion, a little harder, but less common. 長 is about the same, but again less common than 衣. Master 衣 and you'll be in good shape.
garment - nest0r - 2009-12-02
Post-RTK, I mostly remember primitives as above in a kind of kinetic way, flowing and stiffening strokes that get tied into how the kanji's used when I was learning it in words.
garment - mypapa12 - 2009-12-03
Well, while we're venting, allow me to say that I hate those symmetrical primitives/kanjis, here are a few examples of the kanjis I'm always confused with: 丁千干午夫牛半羊失平矢先朱, and don't forget the "scissors" primitive.
A little help that I've found to remember those: they are not strictly "simple primitives" to remember, they have stories of their own too! For example, the "scissors" primitive is a husband using a pair of scissors.
garment - liosama - 2009-12-03
Split it up into a tophat and dress. Sometimes you use the top hat, sometimes you dont, try mould that into your story. Maybe its a sunny day? I dont know.. my stories usually justify no hat with something like "but here you don't need a top hat because so and so," I cant give you a story off the top of my head sorry.
garment - Koos83 - 2009-12-04
Heisig gives his own names to these primitives as well.
The top hat comes above something and the scarf below, that's different than a garment. If you use those names, I've found I don't get confused.
