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Shinkai-san: A Quirky Dictionary - ahibba - 2009-10-31

Shin meikai kokugo jiten 新明解国語辞典 is a popular Japanese dictionary published by Sanseido. It is one of the most popular dictionaries among high-school students.

The first edition went on the market in 1972, and a total of 20 million copies have been sold so far. This comes out to an average of 300,000 copies per year. This is a startling figure in a market where a book of general content is considered a best-seller when it sells 100,000 copies.

The key to Shin meikai kokugo jiten’s appeal is that it is enjoyable to read. In addition to general meanings and interpretations, it includes commentary based on the experiences and opinions of its authors and editors. These commentaries are at times philosophical and humorous.


Let’s compare entries!

恋愛 [れんあい ren’ai]

Common meanings found in other dictionaries Wrote:Love between a man and a woman, or the feeling one feels in such a situation.
Meanings or interpretations given in the Shin meikai kokugo jiten Wrote:To feel an affection for an individual of the opposite sex so intense that one would not regret sacrificing anything for that person; the person is constantly on one’s mind, prompting the wish to always be together and share a private world; one feels happy when that desire is satisfied and anxious or depressed should the slighted doubt about that person’s affections arise.
世の中 [よのなか yononaka]

Common meanings found in other dictionaries Wrote:The realm of human interaction.
The world (cf. seken). Society.
Meanings or interpretations given in the Shin meikai kokugo jiten Wrote:The environment of adult society in which people must make their way through life according to the circumstances (fate) in which they find themselves. Generally, it has contradictions arising from complex human relations and changes occurring from political/economic activity.

It can be said that there is an intermingling of aspects that can be tolerated and aspects that arouse anger and disappointment.
読書 [どく しょ dokusho]

Common meanings found in other dictionaries Wrote:Reading.
Meanings or interpretations given in the Shin meikai kokugo jiten Wrote:Reading, unlike that for research or entrance-exam studies, that momentarily removes one from immediate realities, allowing one’s mind to roam in unknown worlds, and helping one to develop a mature understanding of life. (Lolling in bed reading comic books and leafing through magazines on the train are not considered dokusho in the true sense of the term.)
Click here to download The sixth edition—the newest—of the best-selling Japanese dictionary in Japan.

Shinkai-san: A Quirky Dictionary - bombpersons - 2009-10-31

How do I use it??

*Edit* Ah, you have to use this software http://www.lingoes.net/
Shame, there's no linux port =(

Shinkai-san: A Quirky Dictionary - liosama - 2009-10-31

bombpersons Wrote:How do I use it??

*Edit* Ah, you have to use this software http://www.lingoes.net/
Shame, there's no linux port =(
what about running it on wine?

Shinkai-san: A Quirky Dictionary - ahibba - 2009-10-31

I can't believe that you don't know about Lingoes!

Lingoes and StarDict are more famous than the ridiculous Babylon.

Shinkai-san: A Quirky Dictionary - yudantaiteki - 2009-10-31

http://www.geocities.co.jp/Bookend-Soseki/3578/index.html

Shinkai-san: A Quirky Dictionary - bombpersons - 2009-10-31

liosama Wrote:
bombpersons Wrote:How do I use it??

*Edit* Ah, you have to use this software http://www.lingoes.net/
Shame, there's no linux port =(
what about running it on wine?
It complains about some dll's. I'd go and find them, but I'm not that bothered. I think I'll just use a virtual machine.

Shinkai-san: A Quirky Dictionary - ahibba - 2009-10-31

A portable version of Lingoes:

http://www.lingoes.net/en/translator/trans_downsoft.php?id=41

Shinkai-san: A Quirky Dictionary - Transparent_Aluminium - 2009-10-31

Could you post the original version of those definitions?

Shinkai-san: A Quirky Dictionary - bombpersons - 2009-10-31

Is this dictionary J-E or J-J ? (I know the definitions you posted were in english, but I thought you may have translated them)

Shinkai-san: A Quirky Dictionary - yudantaiteki - 2009-10-31

It's J-J.

Shinkai-san: A Quirky Dictionary - Evil_Dragon - 2009-10-31

Transparent_Aluminium Wrote:Could you post the original version of those definitions?
れんあい 【恋愛】 *
―する 特定の異性に特別の愛情をいだき、高揚した気分で、二人だけで一緒にいたい、精神的な一体感を分かち合いたい、出来るなら肉体的な一体感も得たいと願いながら、常にはかなえられないで、やるせない思いに駆られたり、まれにかなえられて歓喜したりする状態に身を置くこと。
「―結婚·―関係」

よのなか 【世の中】 *
(一)同時代に属する社会を、複雑な人間模様が織り成すものととらえた語。愛し合う人と憎み合う人、成功者と失意·不遇の人とが構造上 同居し、常に矛盾に満ちながら、一方には持ちつ持たれつの関係にある世間。
「物騒な―／―〔＝現世〕がいやになる」
(二)現在の時点·環境を、これまで経験してきた環境となんらかの意味で比べて批評して言う語。時代。時節。
「せちがらい―だ／大変な―になったものだ／今は原子力の〔＝原子力が必要とされる〕―だ／実力の〔＝実力が物を言う〕―」

どくしょ 【読書】
―する 〔研究調査や受験勉強の時などと違って〕一時（イツトキ）現実の世界を離れ、精神を未知の世界に遊ばせたり人生観を確固不動のものたらしめたりするために、（時間の束縛を受けること無く）本を読むこと。〔寝ころがって漫画本を見たり電車の中で週刊誌を読んだりすることは、勝義の読書には含まれない〕
「―家·―力·―百遍」

Shinkai-san: A Quirky Dictionary - Transparent_Aluminium - 2009-10-31

Thanks. Yudan's site also has this for zoo:

どうぶつえん【動物園】
　生態を公衆に見せ、かたわら保護を加えるためと称し、捕らえて来た多くの鳥獣・魚虫などに対し、狭い空間での生活を余儀なくし、飼い殺しにする、人間中心の施設。　（第４版）


Not sure about what かたわら保護を加える means.

Shinkai-san: A Quirky Dictionary - Nii87 - 2009-10-31

I have discovered that I am still unprepared for a monodictionary.

Shinkai-san: A Quirky Dictionary - Transparent_Aluminium - 2009-11-01

These definitions do use pretty rare words: 高揚,やるせない,確固不動.

Shinkai-san: A Quirky Dictionary - bombpersons - 2009-11-01

Nii87 Wrote:I have discovered that I am still unprepared for a monodictionary.
Compare this from the Shin meikai kokugo jiten 新明解国語辞典
Quote:どくしょ 【読書】
―する 〔研究調査や受験勉強の時などと違って〕一時（イツトキ）現実の世界を離れ、精神を未知の世界に遊ばせたり人生観を確固不動のものたらしめたりするために、（時間の束縛を受けること無く）本を読むこと。〔寝ころがって漫画本を見たり電車の中で週刊誌を読んだりすることは、勝義の読書には含まれない〕
「―家·―力·―百遍」
To this definition from the 三省堂 dictionary (can be found at the http://dic.yahoo.co.jp or my new favourite http://weblio.jp )
Quote:どくしょ 【読書】
本を読むこと。
「小さい頃から―する習慣をつける」「―家」「―力」


Shinkai-san: A Quirky Dictionary - FutureBlues - 2009-11-01

Wish I could find this on my iPhone.

Shinkai-san: A Quirky Dictionary - ahibba - 2009-11-01

Remember, Shinkai-san is not an advanced learner's dictionary. It's written for native speakers.

Shinkai-san: A Quirky Dictionary - Nii87 - 2009-11-01

bombpersons Wrote:
Nii87 Wrote:I have discovered that I am still unprepared for a monodictionary.
Compare this from the Shin meikai kokugo jiten 新明解国語辞典
Quote:どくしょ 【読書】
―する 〔研究調査や受験勉強の時などと違って〕一時（イツトキ）現実の世界を離れ、精神を未知の世界に遊ばせたり人生観を確固不動のものたらしめたりするために、（時間の束縛を受けること無く）本を読むこと。〔寝ころがって漫画本を見たり電車の中で週刊誌を読んだりすることは、勝義の読書には含まれない〕
「―家·―力·―百遍」
To this definition from the 三省堂 dictionary (can be found at the http://dic.yahoo.co.jp or my new favourite http://weblio.jp )
Quote:どくしょ 【読書】
本を読むこと。
「小さい頃から―する習慣をつける」「―家」「―力」
Are there offline versions of these? The Sanseido one seems less verbose. Is it less so than the Shinkai-san jisho?

Shinkai-san: A Quirky Dictionary - bombpersons - 2009-11-01

You can find the 三省堂 dictionary on some torrent sites. It's actually bigger, but I'm not sure if that has something to do with epwing format...

Shinkai-san: A Quirky Dictionary - Jarvik7 - 2009-11-01

ahibba Wrote:Remember, Shinkai-san is not an advanced learner's dictionary. It's written for native speakers.
There are no monolingual learner's dictionaries. The market is so small that it doesn't make financial sense to target it. The closest thing is a children's dictionary.

Shinkai-san: A Quirky Dictionary - sethg - 2009-11-01

Thanks! This should be fun Smile

Shinkai-san: A Quirky Dictionary - Jarvik7 - 2009-11-01

ahibba Wrote:Remember, Shinkai-san is not an advanced learner's dictionary. It's written for native speakers.
There are no monolingual learner's dictionaries. The market is so small that it doesn't make financial sense to target it. The closest thing is a children's dictionary.

Shinkai-san: A Quirky Dictionary - ahibba - 2009-11-02

ahibba Wrote:Remember, Shinkai-san is not an advanced learner's dictionary. It's written for native speakers.
There are no monolingual learner's dictionaries. The market is so small that it doesn't make financial sense to target it. The closest thing is a children's dictionary.

Shinkai-san: A Quirky Dictionary - bombpersons - 2009-11-02

ahibba Wrote:Remember, Shinkai-san is not an advanced learner's dictionary. It's written for native speakers.
There are no monolingual learner's dictionaries. The market is so small that it doesn't make financial sense to target it. The closest thing is a children's dictionary.

Shinkai-san: A Quirky Dictionary - Nii87 - 2009-11-02

^In that case, whats a good children's monodictionary you can get on the computer/electronically?