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wai wai articles : where to find them? - ghinzdra - 2009-10-20
for those who don t know what is wai wai it s a infamous column of the mainichi shinbun who took to translate the japanese gutter press in an english column of a mainstream newspaper .To what extent those articles were faithful to the reality is totally arguable (the family sex-grade business article looks like a basic hentai plot) it still infuriated most japanese to the point where mainichi was compelled to close the column .
anyway as I m always looking for a way to strenghten my immersion I m extremely interested by those articles as it s both very controversial , hence very interesting , and not very serious (at least for me) so a good way to relax . So is there an alternative adress , extracts on 2ch , some kind of compilation on perfect dark ?
any place where I can get my hand on those ?
EDIT: I almost forgot : I m obviously looking for the JAPANESE version even if the issue was raised by the translation. And it would be way better as internet content .
for me it s like reading about peoples :don t intend to buy a newspaper each time I feel bored .
wai wai articles : where to find them? - Jarvik7 - 2009-10-20
There is no Japanese version of waiwai. The reason it was controversial is because an English-native employee translated stuff from various tabloids and published it in a mainstream respected newspaper as fact, giving many people false impressions about Japan.
What you want is some Japanese tabloids, but I doubt anyone who regularly reads them is the same kind of person that can scan & distribute stuff on the internet. I also doubt there are any tabloids on the internet officially since stories about "Ayumi Hamasaki is actually a shapeshifting lizardperson" won't draw much in the way of ad sponsorship.
wai wai articles : where to find them? - ghinzdra - 2009-10-20
actually I got an answer from another board . It gave the adress a wiki with an incomplete archive from 2002 to 2008.
so I don t know if they re re-translate it for the sake of this specific wiki but it IS in japanese http://www8.atwiki.jp/mainichi-matome/pages/1840.html
here s an extract of 「睾丸と触手：海の男は海中生物とヤルことで勇敢さを見せる」
舞台芸人のタロウ・マケブルはむかしは伊豆諸島に暮らす漁師だった。彼はある公立高で水産科を履修していた。
雑誌ライターの松沢クレイチはマケブルの魚に関する楽しい話の長年のファンであった。松沢は彼が舞台に出るとき、観客が引くかも知れないから下品になりすぎたり個人的なことを押出しすぎたりしないようにとわざわざ注意を与えている。だが個人的に会ってみれば、いろいろ下世話な話が出てくることになる。いまから話すのは人魚伝説のように美しい話ではない。エイのマンタに関する実際の話である。
マケブルは「漁師をやっている奴なら大抵、どっかでマンタとセックスしたことがある。」と断言している。
I ll stop here it s waiwai no doubt about it . Gosh .
can t believe some guys really believed this stuff ... maternal blowjob for exam is a bit hard to swallow if i dare to say . But sex with mantra .
it makes me think to the "An Elephant Makes Love to a Pig " episode of southpark .too sad in most case there are only the headlines .
wai wai articles : where to find them? - Nii87 - 2009-10-20
Oh cool they have Japanese and English translations side by side! A good find. And I definitely agree, the Waiwai columns did a lot of damage to the reputation of Japan. Probably a lot more than anyone would've expected I suppose.
wai wai articles : where to find them? - Jarvik7 - 2009-10-20
They are retranslations due to the controversy. Good enough for what you want I guess though..
JP tabloid article intentionally mistranslated to make it even raunchier, retranslated back into Japanese by random 2ch'ers. It makes the translator part of me cry
wai wai articles : where to find them? - yudantaiteki - 2009-10-20
http://neojaponisme.com/2007/09/20/how-the-world-learns-about-japan/
wai wai articles : where to find them? - ghinzdra - 2009-10-20
Jarvik7 Wrote:They are retranslations due to the controversy. Good enough for what you want I guess though..I got the feeling it was retranslation .... the sentence structure was just "off" . Didn t sound very natural. Thanks for this confirmation.
JP tabloid article intentionally mistranslated to make it even raunchier, retranslated back into Japanese by random 2ch'ers. It makes the translator part of me cry
Oh and "as for the wai wai did damage to japan "claim....
There are 3 types of people in the world my friend : those who dig japan, those who d like to empty a loaded gun on this damn country .....and those who just don t care .
1st category either reject most of the criticism against japan or know how to deal with it : wai wai is just entertainment and they know it . 2nd category is just looking for an excuse to nuke japan again : wai wai will do it as well as pretty much everything derogatory . And the 3nd category is irrelevant as those guy never got an interest in japan in the first place : who cares about someone s opinion on a subject he doesn t know s.... about ? it won t prevent them to buy a japanese dvd player if it s cheaper. They re just your average dude thrilled or upset 10 times a day for 10 different reasons.
I m far more pissed when feminist , bigot and 2nd rate politicians try to meddle in japanese problems like racism , pornography or woman rights . I guess you could say wai wai fostered an atmosphere of despise and fear that give those guy a better ground . Except this isn t specific to nippon phobia : it comes from low education standard .Desinformation is a part of our high information diet world . So aside from muzzling every media on the face of earth I think there is no effective counter strategy to protect people against themselves.
wai wai articles : where to find them? - ruiner - 2009-10-20
I hate that title too, 'wai wai'.
wai wai articles : where to find them? - Nii87 - 2009-10-20
ghinzdra Wrote:I got the feeling it was retranslation .... the sentence structure was just "off" . Didn t sound very natural.Not worth learning from then I gather.