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Unlicensed Raw Light Novels - Thora - 2009-09-15
thx. When I first heard 'raw' movies, I had assumed it meant uncensored - as in no fuzzed out bits. So raw anime really seemed like overkill to me. Kind of embarrassing to admit.
Unlicensed Raw Light Novels - woodwojr - 2009-09-16
ruiner Wrote:Such is the state of this thread that I can't actually tell if you're being sarcastic herewoodwojr Wrote:Sushi is always cooked. C'mon, you guys don't know that little about rice, do you?You think that's bad? I once saw someone trying to make yakisoba without using soba noodles.
~J
I guess I'll have to give you the benefit of the doubt.(Edit: for those following this banter with some confusion, using soba noodles to make yakisoba is a common western mistake—they're made with the same or similar sort of noodles that go into ramen, along the lines of a lo mein noodle (ish? Anyway, more like one than soba). Much like 中華そば/chuuka soba, the "soba" in context means "noodle" rather than "buckwheat noodle".)
~J
Unlicensed Raw Light Novels - ruiner - 2009-09-16
woodwojr Wrote:Yes, I was kidding. ;p I was also kidding when I said "all sushi is raw". It's just that my humour is not intended to make anyone laugh. Dunno why, I guess I think that's too easy.ruiner Wrote:Such is the state of this thread that I can't actually tell if you're being sarcastic herewoodwojr Wrote:Sushi is always cooked. C'mon, you guys don't know that little about rice, do you?You think that's bad? I once saw someone trying to make yakisoba without using soba noodles.
~J
(Edit: for those following this banter with some confusion, using soba noodles to make yakisoba is a common western mistake—they're made with the same or similar sort of noodles that go into ramen, along the lines of a lo mein noodle (ish? Anyway, more like one than soba). Much like 中華そば/chuuka soba, the "soba" in context means "noodle" rather than "buckwheat noodle".)
~J
Unlicensed Raw Light Novels - woodwojr - 2009-09-16
It got a chuckle out of me before I remembered a close friend who, despite being usually fairly up on things Japanese, did in fact use soba noodle to make yakisoba.
The "all sushi is raw" thing was more obviously a joke. I could see someone not thinking about the rice, but really, egg? Eel? Things like that stand out more.
~J
Unlicensed Raw Light Novels - ruiner - 2009-09-16
woodwojr Wrote:It got a chuckle out of me before I remembered a close friend who, despite being usually fairly up on things Japanese, did in fact use soba noodle to make yakisoba.I actually prefer yakisoba w/ soba. I did it by mistake back when I first tried them, then used the chuuka soba noodles and didn't like it as much. Yakiudon is also good.
The "all sushi is raw" thing was more obviously a joke. I could see someone not thinking about the rice, but really, egg? Eel? Things like that stand out more.
~J
But really, I like pretty much anything smothered in Bulldog tonkatsu sauce.
Unlicensed Raw Light Novels - KREVA - 2009-09-16
QuackingShoe Wrote:As in, text files? That's what most of the ones you find in file-sharing applications are. Scanning novels isn't actually very popular. As might be expected, you can find tons of them if you use the Japanese file-sharing apps.Yes. What file sharing application are you referring to to get such files?
Unlicensed Raw Light Novels - QuackingShoe - 2009-09-16
Share, Winny, and Perfect Dark. Careful, though, these aren't particularly safe ways to distribute files.
Unlicensed Raw Light Novels - captal - 2009-09-16
ruiner Wrote:Yes, I was kidding. ;p I was also kidding when I said "all sushi is raw". It's just that my humour is not intended to make anyone laugh. Dunno why, I guess I think that's too easy.That's why I quit after my first post- I figured you were either kidding, or being stupid. It's too hard to tell on the internet what someone is trying to do. We need to use more smileys
Unlicensed Raw Light Novels - dawhite - 2009-09-16
Thora Wrote:@dawhite - did you mean to address Ruiner? (fwiw I doubt anyone was offended)Nonono, I was responding to your post urging Ruiner to neither apologize nor explain by apologizing and explaining. And now I've half done it again by explaining, although I refuse to apologize
.Damn, trolling on this board is HARD.
Unlicensed Raw Light Novels - kazelee - 2009-09-16
dawhite Wrote:Damn, trolling on this board is HARD.Tell me about it >_>/
Unlicensed Raw Light Novels - ruiner - 2009-09-16
I'm more emotive in Japanese than English, guess I'll make all my jokes in Japanese.
Unlicensed Raw Light Novels - Jarvik7 - 2009-09-16
QuackingShoe Wrote:Share, Winny, and Perfect Dark. Careful, though, these aren't particularly safe ways to distribute files.They are much much safer than anything people in the west normally use (bittorrent, emule, irc, dc, etc) since there is a real measure of anonymity (except Winny, which is just a winmx clone). Some Japanese people have been arrested for downloading stuff from Share, but it's still much harder to get an IP of a downloader than on BT.
Unlicensed Raw Light Novels - KREVA - 2009-09-16
Thanks for the insight, Jarvik7.
Can anyone recommend any titles to search for? I know what to look for when it's manga, but I'm clueless as to standout titles in the "light novel" genre.
Unlicensed Raw Light Novels - QuackingShoe - 2009-09-16
Jarvik7 Wrote:I meant safe for your computer, not safe from the law, since the chances of the law doing anything about a particular person sharing files is minuscule anyway. There's the infamous case of a Winny-born worm uploading the entire (very sensitive) contents of a police computer to the internet...QuackingShoe Wrote:Share, Winny, and Perfect Dark. Careful, though, these aren't particularly safe ways to distribute files.They are much much safer than anything people in the west normally use (bittorrent, emule, irc, dc, etc) since there is a real measure of anonymity (except Winny, which is just a winmx clone). Some Japanese people have been arrested for downloading stuff from Share, but it's still much harder to get an IP of a downloader than on BT.
The whole Suzumiya Haruhi series is one of the more popular spinning around, and is also easy to find online without having to resort to downloading anything. Other than that, I guess looking for stuff that became so popular fans are translating them into English is an idea: http://www.baka-tsuki.org/project/index.php?title=Sidebar_Backup
Apparently Kino no Tabi is supposed to be easy? I haven't read it.
Unlicensed Raw Light Novels - woodwojr - 2009-09-16
I highly recommend キノの旅, though my copies are honest so I can't give advice on where to find it (well, other than any used bookstore in Japan)
~J
Unlicensed Raw Light Novels - KREVA - 2009-09-17
woodwojr Wrote:I highly recommend キノの旅, though my copies are honest so I can't give advice on where to find it (well, other than any used bookstore in Japan)Thanks for the recommendation, woodwojr. I plan to eventually purchase some "honest copies", but I tend to do a lot of online sampling to find what's worth buying in regards to my interests (and saving a coin or two in my pocket, which is very valuable as a college student
~J
) since I don't have the luxury of living in Japan at the moment. I will look into キノの旅. Thanks again.
Unlicensed Raw Light Novels - woodwojr - 2009-09-17
Oh, I completely understand. Since I came back from Japan my ratio of properly obtained material to non has gone from near-infinite (I guess there was some music in there) to… small.
~J
Unlicensed Raw Light Novels - undead_saif - 2009-09-17
Thanks for the link and the explanation! I needed it.
chamcham Wrote:Anyway, AFAIK, it's probably safe to say that these novels are unlicensed,BTW, what's licensed in the US isn't necessarily licensed world wide.
but I make no guarantees.
Unlicensed Raw Light Novels - woodwojr - 2009-09-17
The whole "licensed" thing is a red herring, anyway; it's true that not having a party in your same country with standing to sue makes it less likely that you'll be taken to court, but it's such a miniscule chance to begin with that it's not worth thinking about.
Edit: I guess there is a legitimate case of it mattering from a potential ethical standpoint, which is in the specific case of unlicensed translators/scanlators who make the work available in a language it wasn't previously available in, but that doesn't apply to people looking for the original Japanese (like, presumably, people on this board).
~J
Unlicensed Raw Light Novels - chamcham - 2009-09-17
Wow. I just got a chance to look at Kino no Tabi (キノの旅).
VERY EASY read for someoe who has finished RTK.
Of course, you'll have to learn lots of new words, but at least
you'll know all the kanji. Also, the grammar is much simpler compared
to other light novels I've seen so far.
Might even go as far as to say that Kino no Tabi is a great starting
point to consider when you're done with RTK1.
Unlicensed Raw Light Novels - chamcham - 2009-09-17
To give you an idea,
here is a sample page from Kino no Tabi (キノの旅).
This is actually the first page of the story.
http://img269.imageshack.us/img269/3052/011er.jpg
Moderators: If posting a sample image is not allowed, please let me know.
Unlicensed Raw Light Novels - Nii87 - 2009-09-17
Wow, its actually understandable! Where did you get it?
Unlicensed Raw Light Novels - woodwojr - 2009-09-17
It's easier to read than the real copy, though the fact that the real copy is small enough to fit in the pocket of a pair of jeans accounts for most of that.
~J
Unlicensed Raw Light Novels - captal - 2009-09-17
chamcham Wrote:Might even go as far as to say that Kino no Tabi is a great startingI'm going to disagree. Given that you don't know any readings, how are you to learn the readings for the words with no furigana- which there are a lot of?
point to consider when you're done with RTK1.
Seems like a great novel for someone who has just finished KO, but right after RTK1 seems rough.
Maybe I can find a copy at Book Off... I wonder if I can find the right section
Unlicensed Raw Light Novels - woodwojr - 2009-09-18
For what it's worth, I found it an enjoyable read even when I wasn't able to pronounce most of the words.
As for "how are you going to learn the readings", you do that some other way. Is that all books are to you, a tool?
Edit: more seriously, as someone who never bothered with KO or anything like that, the way I learn a new reading is mostly from seeing a word I can't pronounce often enough that I end up looking it up. Doesn't always stick, but it's gotten me a fair way so far.
~J