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software to evaluate writing (stroke order etc.) - fugu68 - 2009-08-11

Can anyone recommend PC-based software to test kanji writing accuracy, using a tablet and pen? I've been playing with KingKanji a bit, which includes some Heisig decks.

Are there any other good bits of software out there - anything like Kanji Kakitorikun, (but for the PC) for example? I guess I'm after something that checks my stroke order, and balance etc...

software to evaluate writing (stroke order etc.) - ghinzdra - 2009-08-11

and how the software is gonna evaluate your writing if you don t have a pen ?
honestly DS is worth the investment... especially when you have a R4 cartridge

software to evaluate writing (stroke order etc.) - fugu68 - 2009-08-11

Well...I *do* have a pen - I'm using the Wacom Bamboo.

I might well go for a DS, but wanted to check out the alternatives first. I don't need the DS for dictionary lookups on the go (I already have a Casio GP9700 which I love), so I was trying to avoid having to get another gadget...

software to evaluate writing (stroke order etc.) - mezbup - 2009-08-11

I can vouch for the DS but then it's not perfect. Let's say you get one or two strokes wrong it'll still usually come up with the compound you're looking for if you've drawn a good enough representation that's 90% correct. I'm talking about kanji sono mama de. Good dictionary though imo and yeah, it's good for lotsa reasons.

Although, Kanken DS 3 has a stroke order test function which i've found really useful. Not to mention Kanken DS 3 is awesome test prep for the Kanken aswell as a pretty cool tool to have!

software to evaluate writing (stroke order etc.) - wccrawford - 2009-08-11

I have a DS, and I still want PC-based software to check this. I was using the IME for a while, but as someone noted for some DS software, if the strokes are close enough, it'll take it. Plus, it's a pain to use with just a pen. (It's easier to clear characters with the keyboard, etc.)

So yes, the DS has a couple games... But what does the PC have?

software to evaluate writing (stroke order etc.) - fugu68 - 2009-08-11

wccrawford Wrote:I have a DS, and I still want PC-based software to check this. I was using the IME for a while, but as someone noted for some DS software, if the strokes are close enough, it'll take it. Plus, it's a pain to use with just a pen. (It's easier to clear characters with the keyboard, etc.)

So yes, the DS has a couple games... But what does the PC have?

At last - someone else after a PC-based solution (although I must admit I'm tempted by kakitorikun on the DS)...

The only thing I've found that gives some feedback on stroke order is King Kanji
http://www.gakusoft.com/kingkanji.htm - there's a 30 day demo version, so you could give it a try.

I wonder if there is anything more sophisticated out there?

software to evaluate writing (stroke order etc.) - fugu68 - 2009-08-26

Just came across this :

http://www.nanzan-u.ac.jp/SHUBUNKEN/publications/miscPublications/KanjiGymLight.htm

Maybe of help with the writing practice on the PC, although it doesn't evaluate your efforts.

In the end, I ordered a DS + kakitorikun/bimoji/kankenDS3 to help with this aspect.

software to evaluate writing (stroke order etc.) - futnuh - 2009-08-27

Tomorrow's OS X mini-update (Leopard -> Snow Leopard) is reported to have touchpad kanji recognition. It will be interesting to try.

software to evaluate writing (stroke order etc.) - robin - 2010-02-23

Hi, I know this thread is a bit old, but I'm a new member and I'm using a Windows app to practice writing kanji with a pen & tablet. I really like it, as it provides instant feedback on each stroke as you draw, and can be configured to be more or less strict to suit your needs. It is called LexiKAN. http://www.lexikan.com/

software to evaluate writing (stroke order etc.) - Jarvik7 - 2010-02-24

robin Wrote:Hi, I know this thread is a bit old, but I'm a new member and I'm using a Windows app to practice writing kanji with a pen & tablet. I really like it, as it provides instant feedback on each stroke as you draw, and can be configured to be more or less strict to suit your needs. It is called LexiKAN. http://www.lexikan.com/

I recommend throwing out that software and getting bimoji training on DS. I haven't tried it, but it looks like its just using the typical EDICT et al databases. The detail in there is very limited compared to bimoji (stroke angle, length, hane/tome, spacing, etc). It seems that about all LexiKAN tests is stroke order and number.

software to evaluate writing (stroke order etc.) - wccrawford - 2010-02-24

If you can't read Japanese yet, Bimoji Training is very hard to understand. You're dealing with foreign concepts in a foreign language. You have to guess what all the circles, lines and numbers mean, and it's hard to use it to improve with.

I haven't tried lexikan yet, but I intend to, since I have a tablet PC and it should be good for that.

software to evaluate writing (stroke order etc.) - robin - 2010-02-24

Jarvik7 Wrote:I recommend throwing out that software and getting bimoji training on DS. I haven't tried it, but it looks like its just using the typical EDICT et al databases. The detail in there is very limited compared to bimoji (stroke angle, length, hane/tome, spacing, etc). It seems that about all LexiKAN tests is stroke order and number.

Jarvik7, I am just a beginner, but it seems to me there is a lot more to their database than just stroke order and number. I am constantly being corrected for angle, length, stroke shape (e.g. curves/hooks), and spacing problems. Don't know what hane/tome are so I can't comment on that. Wink

I am pretty frugal so I don't plan to buy a DS unless I have to.

software to evaluate writing (stroke order etc.) - wccrawford - 2010-02-24

So I played with Lexikan. I'm not impressed. Bimoji Training is way better, even if you have to guess at what it's saying. Find a nice tutorial about it on the web (I think there are videos out there) and BT is definitely the way to go.

software to evaluate writing (stroke order etc.) - robin - 2010-02-26

I watched a couple of the videos on Bimoji Training and I have to agree, it is more sophisticated than LexiKAN. I don't think I'm ready for that yet, though, as I'm still plowing through RtK vol 1, and just learning to write the kanji correctly in response to English keywords is a challenge for me.

I look forward to the day when I have mastered the basics and can benefit from more penmanship practice!

software to evaluate writing (stroke order etc.) - aqublue - 2010-03-08

Sorry to divert the topic, but since nobody responded to my thread I'm going to ask here.

Is there any PC Kanji dictionary that allows one to draw the character via pen (wacom) which will be recognised and displayed with all the readings, definitions, etc?

I realise there is something for the DS, but I'd prefer it on the PC.

Thanks
Alan

software to evaluate writing (stroke order etc.) - wccrawford - 2010-03-08

aqublue Wrote:Sorry to divert the topic, but since nobody responded to my thread I'm going to ask here.

If nobody replied to your topic, it was because they didn't have an answer. Don't pollute other topics.

software to evaluate writing (stroke order etc.) - ファブリス - 2010-03-08

aqublue: nothing wrong with getting people's attention if you have a very similar topic, but when you do that it would be best to include a link to your topic, to allow people to respond there directly.

software to evaluate writing (stroke order etc.) - aqublue - 2010-03-08

http://forum.koohii.com/showthread.php?tid=5150

Sorry, it was not my intention to pollute the thread. I thought, given that this topic is so similar to what I've been lookin for, that somebody might have an idea in this thread.

My apologies,
Aqu

software to evaluate writing (stroke order etc.) - robin - 2010-03-23

FYI, I've been working with a LexiKAN developer who is helping me add Heisig's keywords to their kanji data. I have their permission to share the result - is anyone else interested?
This differs from the options you get by default in the following ways:

- Heisig keyword added to each kanji
- Kanji grouped into Heisig's lessons
- Each kanji is tagged with Heisig's frame number and keyword, which are visible on the "draw kanji" screen (where you practice writing) as a comment.

The default Heisig configuration does not include Heisig's keywords or lesson groups, but does have several meanings and readings for each kanji. This just adds the keyword and frame number in an easy-to-see place.