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JLPT1 in 9 Months - blackmacros - 2009-08-11

IceCream Wrote:誕生日おめでとう！
have you thought of doing some cloze deletion cards for the questions with the blanks?
Yeah, the KM book has little tests at the end of each chapter of the fill in the blank variety. I might put those sentences into Anki using the cloze deletion feature, and hopefully that will help. I've always sucked at fill in the blank, even in English...

JLPT1 in 9 Months - coverup - 2009-08-11

It's been recommended to get past tests and practice with those, but I can't find any for the life of me online. Any ideas?

I'm going to check the bookstore after work today (I live in JP) and see if there are some cheap collections, but where did the rest of you get them?

Aiming for a strong score on 2級 in December for helping me land a translating job.

Thanks!

JLPT1 in 9 Months - blackmacros - 2009-08-11

You can do them online here: http://jlpt.biz/jlpt/jlptexamine.do?level=2&year=2005 just adjust the level and year in the URL (I haven't figured out how else to navigate them...)

I also downloaded a whole bunch from the rtk share google group http://groups.google.com/group/rtk-share?hl=ja

JLPT1 in 9 Months - mafried - 2009-08-11

The past tests are sold in book form. I'm sure you can find some ebook/torrents around somewhere, if that's your thing.

EDIT: wow blackmacros, great resource. thanks!

JLPT1 in 9 Months - avparker - 2009-08-11

mafried Wrote:The past tests are sold in book form. I'm sure you can find some ebook/torrents around somewhere, if that's your thing.
FYI - I've seen 2 types of books, single year or multiple years
- １級　and ２級 for a single year
- ２級 for 3 successive years
They're about the same price, and they both come with a CD for the audio section of the tests.

JLPT1 in 9 Months - coverup - 2009-08-11

Excellent, thanks for the help.

Now I just need to figure out how to grade the darn thing and calculate the scores. Will search for that later.

JLPT1 in 9 Months - Jarvik7 - 2009-08-11

I wouldn't focus so much on grading. Aim for 100%.

JLPT1 in 9 Months - coverup - 2009-08-12

Word up Jarvik.

JLPT1 in 9 Months - mezbup - 2009-08-12

I can't find any on the net with decent enough audio quality Sad

JLPT1 in 9 Months - Akira117 - 2009-08-22

mezbup Wrote:I can't find any on the net with decent enough audio quality Sad
This site is a god send as far as native media.

http://www.d-addicts.com/forum/torrents.php

Check your local laws obviously before downloading anything ;p


@blackmacros
What is your study method as far a learning sentences?
Do you write them down or what is the general process?

JLPT1 in 9 Months - mezbup - 2009-08-22

Akira117 Wrote:
mezbup Wrote:I can't find any on the net with decent enough audio quality Sad
This site is a god send as far as native media.

http://www.d-addicts.com/forum/torrents.php

Check your local laws obviously before downloading anything ;p


@blackmacros
What is your study method as far a learning sentences?
Do you write them down or what is the general process?
was referring to the audio section of the JLPT and not being able to the audio portion of the test in a high enough quality. The ones i've found are barely listenable and some not at all.

JLPT1 in 9 Months - Jarvik7 - 2009-08-22

@mezbup: Consider it good practice. The actual tests also use horrible quality recordings played on a tiny rickety cassette deck placed in the corner of a huge room. To make the sound travel to the other side of said room they crank the volume to max, making it clip. Seating is assigned so you can't even try to sit close to the tape player.

..or so everyone says. I took JLPT in Canada so it was in a media room at my university which had speakers built into the ceiling and the recordings on CD. It does perfectly describe the time I took JTEST in Japan though.

JLPT1 in 9 Months - blackmacros - 2009-08-22

Akira117 Wrote:What is your study method as far a learning sentences?
Do you write them down or what is the general process?
I only review recognition right now. Kanji --> Reading/Meaning. If I can't remember a reading, a meaning of a word, or the meaning of the sentence as a whole, I fail the card.

@Jarvik I sincerely hope the audio is a little better quality than the stuff you can find online. The reading/audio sections are going to be my sticking points as it is.

JLPT1 in 9 Months - yukamina - 2009-08-22

The only JLPT audio I listened to was the one from 2007, and there was nothing wrong with it :?

JLPT1 in 9 Months - blackmacros - 2009-08-22

I listened to one from the online repository I linked to earlier (cant remember which year, but I think it was actually a level 4 exam). The audio was so warped and warbled that I could barely make out some of the words. Although, given it was only a level 4 exam, picking out the meaning was still possible. But it was only possible because I'm much higher than that level. If the real test audio is like that, to have any success I would actually need to be well *above* JLPT1 level.

JLPT1 in 9 Months - mezbup - 2009-08-22

Jarvik7 Wrote:@mezbup: Consider it good practice. The actual tests also use horrible quality recordings played on a tiny rickety cassette deck placed in the corner of a huge room. To make the sound travel to the other side of said room they crank the volume to max, making it clip. Seating is assigned so you can't even try to sit close to the tape player.

..or so everyone says. I took JLPT in Canada so it was in a media room at my university which had speakers built into the ceiling and the recordings on CD. It does perfectly describe the time I took JTEST in Japan though.
Eek. Yeah, i've heard similar horror stories so I think I will use it as practice!

JLPT1 in 9 Months - ファブリス - 2009-08-23

Moving to JLPT sub forum.

JLPT1 in 9 Months - blackmacros - 2009-08-23

ファブリス Wrote:Moving to JLPT sub forum.
Oops, I completed forgot there was a JLPT forum. Silly me.

In relation to my JLPT attempt, I've just started on KM1kyuu grammar and should be done by Friday. That leaves me a little more than my planned 3 months of time for vocabulary/practice tests etc. So everything is going according to plan so far!

JLPT1 in 9 Months - cescoz - 2009-08-23

Hey BlackMacros...when you have time to spare can you write what you did from the beginning and what you will do? like 1.rtk 2. ko2001 3.ecc thxWink

JLPT1 in 9 Months - blackmacros - 2009-08-23

When I get some spare time (perhaps after I sit the JLPT, or maybe this mid-semester break) I might sit down and type out what I've done/plan to do.

But in the mean time, the abridged version is:
1. RtK
2. Tae Kim
3. KO2001
4. KM2kyuu
5. KM1kyuu <---- I'm here.
6. JLPT1 Vocab list + dictionary example sentences (~6000 words)
7. Profit? At this point I will have completed 100% of the efficiency based resources I plan to do.

Step 6, the vocab list, I'm doing partially because of the test but also because I can see the benefits of it and I know I'm the type of person who can withstand the boredom.

Other than that, the rest is basically what I view as the logical -most efficient - progression for someone wanting to make use of efficiency based resources. (I won't get into the pure AJATT vs Learning Materials debate here, but suffice it to say that I personally feel the benefits outweigh the costs.)

JLPT1 in 9 Months - Jarvik7 - 2009-08-23

The JLPT vocab lists aren't inclusive, so you should do JLPT4,3,2,1 lists.

JLPT1 in 9 Months - blackmacros - 2009-08-23

I have a JLPT list with ~7000 (of which about 1000 are katakana words, which I don't plan to learn. Hence the ~6000 number I quoted above) words on it, it was the largest one I could find. I'm not sure whether its a JLPT1 exclusive list or not. Unfortunately though I don't really have time to go through anything else but that list. I figure the JLPT4-2 words will have been mostly covered by KO2001 + the other things I read, or will at least be easier to guess than JLPT1 words anyway.

JLPT1 in 9 Months - koyota - 2009-08-23

blackmacros Wrote:I have a JLPT list with ~7000 (of which about 1000 are katakana words, which I don't plan to learn. Hence the ~6000 number I quoted above) words on it, it was the largest one I could find. I'm not sure whether its a JLPT1 exclusive list or not. Unfortunately though I don't really have time to go through anything else but that list. I figure the JLPT4-2 words will have been mostly covered by KO2001 + the other things I read, or will at least be easier to guess than JLPT1 words anyway.
It's inclusive, so no worries there! Jlpt1 is 8000 words given on a list which they say will cover 80% of what's on the test. In all honestly based on past test analysis though you could get by and pass the JLPT 1 vocab section(in no way a perfect score though) by just studying the 3000-4000 or so JLPT 1 words .

And about 100 of thoese Katakana words are either not English or are used in completely different ways then they are used in english, so if you have time I suggest at least just skimming the list to see if there are any you have no clue about. (Some of them like コンセント) are used all the time.

JLPT1 in 9 Months - blackmacros - 2009-08-23

Excellent! That's reassuring, thanks Smile Yeah I'll give the katakana a skim, but probably won't devote more than a day or two to it. I figure, with over 8000 possible words I could be tested on the possibility of getting tested on a katakana word I don't know/can't guess has to be pretty low.

JLPT1 in 9 Months - Thora - 2009-08-23

You mentioned that you're studying only 2-4 hours a day. So you could probably do the exam is less than 9 months if you pick up the pace.