liosama Wrote:Do you masturbate at least?

Quote:Stop it. You're already someone who's learned English to what appears to be perfect fluency. If you also go quoting Star Wars on a regular basis, I may have to develop an e-crush.

blackmacros Wrote:I can't be bothered searching through this thread but you've said a couple of times " I have more experience than the Average Joe". I'm sorry but if that doesn't imply that you had a large number of sexual encounters to 'practice' for your dream girl then I don't know what does. Mary was a logical extension of that to demonstrate my point.

blackmacros Wrote:Nothing in my description violates your guidelines of kind, sweet, caring, intelligent girl. So if you don't want her, there must be something else you want? Purity perhaps?

Purity and experience are mutually exclusive.

blackmacros Wrote:Purity and experience are mutually exclusive.

You are experienced.

You are therefore not pure.

Aijin Wrote:TrueBlue: That makes sense, but I am just wondering, how will you know that the girl you first have full-on sex with will be the girl you want to spend the rest of your life with?

Aijin Wrote:Relationships change tremendously based on circumstances. Casually dating someone is nothing like living with them, which is nothing like being married and having kids with them. People may exist in a relationship happily in one situation, but when transported to the next, their relationship collapses into a cesspool of misery.

Aijin Wrote:I am just saying, it's impossible to ever know. I was 100% convinced I would spend the rest of my life with my first love, yet in retrospect I realize it never would have worked out. Emotions are capricious, while love is capricious and cruel. You just can't ever tell, if you know what I mean.

Aijin Wrote:Of course, if you're okay with that, then there's no problem. Like I said, your goal isn't impossible, I don't think anyone is saying that it is.

Aijin Wrote:Relationships like that do happen. I just think most of us want you to be able to find happiness in other relationships if your dream falls short. I mean, will you abandon your quest after a while?

Aijin Wrote:If you search for 6 years for this dream girl, never find anyone close, then find a girl that takes your breath away, but the minor detail is she's had sex before, would you still go for her?

liosama Wrote:Do you masturbate at least?

magamo Wrote:@TheTrueBlue
Every girl shlicks. No exceptions.

magamo Wrote:shlicks

TrueBlue Wrote:I want someone to live life with, I don't want a woman who's so experienced and mature and established that she's kind of already found a place in life to situate herself within.

blackmacros Wrote:

TrueBlue Wrote:I want someone to live life with, I don't want a woman who's so experienced and mature and established that she's kind of already found a place in life to situate herself within.

So I looked at your list and I believe this is the only thing that disqualifies poor old Mary, if you take 'experienced' to also mean sexually [although I never described Mary as having already found her place in the world]. I also believe it disqualifies you (you do keep going on about your experience after all).

So my point still stands.

Other than that, Mary still fits all the points on your list.

Aijin Wrote:Shlick = masturbate??? I've never heard that one. I have mixed feelings on if it's a word I should add to my English vocabulary

Burritolingus Wrote:

Aijin Wrote:Shlick = masturbate??? I've never heard that one. I have mixed feelings on if it's a word I should add to my English vocabulary

It's simply the logical, onomatopoeic counterpart to "fap", of course! Which is standard 4chan terminology, and why you really probably should not add it to your English vocabulary. Ever. And this applies to everyone, native speakers and otherwise.

Also, I'm gonna start writing my Mary fanfic right now, because this thread has inspired me in ways thought possible only by war heroes and the triumphant physically disabled. As long as we believe in her, Mary will live on in hearts forever. I think I'll call it, "Mary and the Seven Enchanted Dongs"

TheTrueBlue Wrote:You are exaggerating my sexual experience and hers in your examples.

And we don't know enough about to Mary to say if she fits all the other things I'm looking for.

Burritolingus Wrote:

Aijin Wrote:Shlick = masturbate??? I've never heard that one. I have mixed feelings on if it's a word I should add to my English vocabulary

It's simply the logical, onomatopoeic counterpart to "fap", of course! Which is standard 4chan terminology, and why you really probably should not add it to your English vocabulary. Ever. And this applies to everyone, native speakers and otherwise.

Also, I'm gonna start writing my Mary fanfic right now, because this thread has inspired me in ways thought possible only by war heroes and the triumphant physically disabled. As long as we believe in her, Mary will live on in our hearts forever. I think I'll call it, "Mary and the Seven Enchanted Dongs"

blackmacros Wrote:

TheTrueBlue Wrote:You are exaggerating my sexual experience and hers in your examples.

And we don't know enough about to Mary to say if she fits all the other things I'm looking for.

If I'm exaggerating your sexual experiences you've only got yourself to blame.

blackmacros Wrote:The only thing I'm basing my assumptions on is what you've told us of your sexual experience.

blackmacros Wrote:Mary's experience has been exaggerated, on purpose.

blackmacros Wrote:It is a logical extension of the comments you have made to show you why and where your reasoning about virginity breaks down.

blackmacros Wrote:Would it be acceptable if she had done these acts with only half the village? A quarter? Two or three?

blackmacros Wrote:The same amount of people as you've had experiences with?

blackmacros Wrote:Mary is a virgin after all, and perfect for you in every other regard*, but you've rejected her (and broken her heart might I add).

blackmacros Wrote:If you answer is "I reject Mary if she has done that with the whole village" but "its ok with 2 or 3 people, or the same amount of people as me" then you're logic is inconsistent, which is the point I'm trying to make.

blackmacros Wrote:If your answer is "I reject Mary if she has done that with anyone at all" then, logically, your perfect woman would also reject you (and it makes you a hypocrite).

blackmacros Wrote:So, which is it? Logical inconsistency on your behalf, or a hypocrite?

blackmacros Wrote:*Take it as given that Mary is the perfect woman for you in all the other points that you mentioned in that list.

Burritolingus Wrote:Also, I'm gonna start writing my Mary fanfic right now, because this thread has inspired me in ways thought possible only by war heroes and the triumphant physically disabled. As long as we believe in her, Mary will live on in our hearts forever. I think I'll call it, "Mary and the Seven Enchanted Dongs"

TheTrueBlue Wrote:She's not perfect for me in every other regard. If this fantastical character you've decided to employ fits those characters, then describe as such, one at a time. That people can see how unlikely such a person is, if nothing else.

Quote:- Like in wedding vows, I'd want someone who I can be really affectionate with and cherish. I've heard of the stigma against バカップル, but in private, if a girl doesn't like a guy who's romantic and physically intimate (スキンシップ) and I've met plenty who don't like the mushy stuff, then she's not going to be suitable.

- I want her to be a virgin, like me. To not smoke, like me, to not have killed anyone, like me, to not be a party-person, like me. In other words つまり, someone who is still young in certain ways. I want someone to live life with, I don't want a woman who's so experienced and mature and established that she's kind of already found a place in life to situate herself within.

- I want her to be smart and curious about everything, as I believe myself to be. I have no problems with airheads, in fact they can be the funnest friends to have around! But in an intimate relationship it would be unbearable.

- I want her to be sweet, kind, considerate, and open-minded. But I also want her to have a firm control on her senses, not to fall apart as soon as someone yells "the sky is falling." I know a lot of otaku are very moe for the helpless 眼鏡っ子，but I like more the composed and serene 眼鏡っ子.

- I want her to be casually areligious, as I am.

- I want to be able to have intellectual discussions with her (bearing in the mind the language barrier of course, but working over that shouldn't be unbearably torturous in this regard) about culture, history, philosophy, politics, science, and literature.

- I've read that "many girls" think of marriage in terms of "flowers and rainbows", as I'm sure many guys mistakenly think of it as well. But really, >>>why<<< do Honeymoons end? My thinking thus far has led me to the conclusion that much of the time it has to do with money, needing to work for example.

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blackmacros Wrote:The same amount of people as you've had experiences with?

Sure.

TheTrueBlue Wrote:After all, every school or workplace has their share of anti-social outcasts, both male and female. And some of those people lessen in their anipathy or awkwardness as they grow and adjust into adults. Hopefully I can meet someone who's decided to give social interactions a second chance, that maybe people aren't as awful as those bullies who 苛め’ｄ her back in high school.

Musashi Wrote:

dat5h Wrote:Just gonna pop in here a moment and point out that statistically, you are far better off going to China if you want to find this girl. Just a thought

Gosh, what is this: go there and there to have a better chance of finding a girl? Can't find one in your own area? It sounds almost like you're promoting, yeah go to China because it's easy to find a girl since they'd think ur rich (in fact not rich and usually ugly) and western, and you couldn't find one in ur own country anyways.

(nothing wrong with it though as long as it's all positive, but it's a dumb concept)

TheTrueBlue Wrote:It's good that you acknowledge by omission that your prior case was baseless.

Quote:And given that you have described yourself as quite experienced, I don't see how this is compatible with your desire (re the bolded section above) for a non-experienced woman.

Quote:Here is what my girl says to me:

"I've been with 8 guys, and we did all kinds of things. They touched me in certain places, and we gave each other pleasure. But I didn't go all the way with any of them. Do you accept me?"
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