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Trouble With Tae Kim - mezbup - 2009-07-13
Im having a lot of trouble getting in to Tae Kim...
What's the deal with the bizarre and seemingly unrealistic examples in the beginning? I mean...
You can also string multiple adjectives successively in any order in any form.
（１） 静かな高いビル。- A quiet, tall building.
（２） 高くない静かなビル。- A not tall, quiet building.
...what ***** building makes noise in the first place???? Im not sure I want to put something that sounds bizzarre into my SRS and have it burned into my brain...
tell me, does it get any better? or any worse??
Trouble With Tae Kim - lagwagon555 - 2009-07-13
You make baby jesus cry. Please don't swear :'(
Trouble With Tae Kim - bombpersons - 2009-07-13
I think those sentences are only there to give you a sense of what is possible with the grammer. I don't think anyone would actually say that, but it emphasizes what you can do with that particular grammer.
I think it's ok to add to your SRS since, you'll have loads of other cards as well so it's not like you'll end up speaking like that..
Trouble With Tae Kim - Yonosa - 2009-07-13
bombpersons Wrote:I think those sentences are only there to give you a sense of what is possible with the grammer. I don't think anyone would actually say that, but it emphasizes what you can do with that particular grammer.I agree, I'm almost done with Tae Kim and overall, Invaluable and overall because of the low vocabulary you can get through it in 2 weeks or so no problem. You will have a great grasp on basic grammar when you are done. I already feel I am getting there, although I can't wait for a month of 2 down when I really internalize the stuff because right now I understand if when i see it, but only half comes up when I'm thinking.
I think it's ok to add to your SRS since, you'll have loads of other cards as well so it's not like you'll end up speaking like that..
PS I'm actually SRSing it right at this moment!
Trouble With Tae Kim - Yonosa - 2009-07-13
lagwagon555 Wrote:You make baby jesus cry. Please don't swear :'(F*#^ BABYJESUS!>_<！
Trouble With Tae Kim - igordesu - 2009-07-13
Yonosa Wrote:Come on now, there's really no need to be sarcastic and disrespectful of other people's beliefs, especially in a place like this (trust me, I've learned my lesson ;])...lagwagon555 Wrote:You make baby jesus cry. Please don't swear :'(F*#^ BABYJESUS!>_<！
Trouble With Tae Kim - Yonosa - 2009-07-13
igordesu Wrote:I like to make fun of silly ideas... ooops there I go agaiN! ごめんなさいぃぃぃ！Yonosa Wrote:Come on now, there's really no need to be sarcastic and disrespectful of other people's beliefs, especially in a place like this (trust me, I've learned my lesson ;])...lagwagon555 Wrote:You make baby jesus cry. Please don't swear :'(F*#^ BABYJESUS!>_<！
Trouble With Tae Kim - mezbup - 2009-07-13
hmm as I get into it im finding some more coherent sentences indeed... I think im just gonna SRS the bits that I feel I need to...
Trouble With Tae Kim - Codexus - 2009-07-13
mezbup Wrote:...what ***** building makes noise in the first place???? Im not sure I want to put something that sounds bizzarre into my SRS and have it burned into my brain...I don't think it's strange to describe a place with 静か at all and if you google 静かなビル you'll find that expression used in some blogs. It's not an extremely common combination but it's not wrong.
tell me, does it get any better? or any worse??
As for Tae Kim in general, it's free and available right away but it's sometimes a bit weird. I can't really recommend it to beginners, there are better introductory courses.
Trouble With Tae Kim - mezbup - 2009-07-13
Yeah I guess a place can be described as quiet if nothings going on, huh...
Ugh maybe my brain just doesnt agree with trying to "study" grammar or something like that because I find it just makes my brain bleed and it really feels like "study" but if it helps give me a better foundation for understanding then I guess its a good investment.
Im entering Tae Kim into my SRS - Front = All Kana + Cloze deletion of what I want to test on... Back = Full Kanji sentence + Explanation.
Way to test my kanji/vocab at the same time as grammar... so at least it will give me vocab practice if nothing else.
Trouble With Tae Kim - Yonosa - 2009-07-13
mezbup Wrote:Yeah I guess a place can be described as quiet if nothings going on, huh...Just do reading, seems overboard to do all that. As, for as understanding grammar you'd do much better off without having to think about all those other factors, my personal opinion.
Ugh maybe my brain just doesnt agree with trying to "study" grammar or something like that because I find it just makes my brain bleed and it really feels like "study" but if it helps give me a better foundation for understanding then I guess its a good investment.
Im entering Tae Kim into my SRS - Front = All Kana + Cloze deletion of what I want to test on... Back = Full Kanji sentence + Explanation.
Way to test my kanji/vocab at the same time as grammar... so at least it will give me vocab practice if nothing else.
Trouble With Tae Kim - yukkuri_kame - 2009-07-13
Reminds me of Deep Thoughts with Jack Handley from SNL:
"Some people never stop to think that a tree is not unlike a tall, leafy dog that is very quiet."
Trouble With Tae Kim - mezbup - 2009-07-13
Yonosa Wrote:I learned all the vocab already through readthekanji so its just reinforcing what I know/training me on production of it.mezbup Wrote:Yeah I guess a place can be described as quiet if nothings going on, huh...Just do reading, seems overboard to do all that. As, for as understanding grammar you'd do much better off without having to think about all those other factors, my personal opinion.
Ugh maybe my brain just doesnt agree with trying to "study" grammar or something like that because I find it just makes my brain bleed and it really feels like "study" but if it helps give me a better foundation for understanding then I guess its a good investment.
Im entering Tae Kim into my SRS - Front = All Kana + Cloze deletion of what I want to test on... Back = Full Kanji sentence + Explanation.
Way to test my kanji/vocab at the same time as grammar... so at least it will give me vocab practice if nothing else.
Trouble With Tae Kim - FutureBlues - 2009-07-13
I don't really see how a tall, quiet building is odd. I can name two or three structures on my college campus that were loud as hell, pretty much 24/7 back when I used to go to school. Furthermore, you can use quiet to describe lanes and groves, villages and hamlets, and any number of things which don't specifically emit any sound, persay. Imagine you're standing in the middle of Harajuku and you see a little cafe without anyone going in or out, amidst the morning rush. You might think to yourself, "What a quiet little cafe that is. I wonder what's going on in there."
I imagine what's bothering you is not so much the image itself, but the English translations. I suggest you ignore them, because while they get the point across, they're very basic for a reason-- they shouldn't be the focus.
Trouble With Tae Kim - igordesu - 2009-07-13
Yonosa Wrote:I think that if you actually, honestly think about it, you'll find that your own beliefs are just as silly as everyone elsesigordesu Wrote:I like to make fun of silly ideas... ooops there I go agaiN! ごめんなさいぃぃぃ！Yonosa Wrote:F*#^ BABYJESUS!>_<！Come on now, there's really no need to be sarcastic and disrespectful of other people's beliefs, especially in a place like this (trust me, I've learned my lesson ;])...
That's why it's best to to stay on topic in a place like this.
Trouble With Tae Kim - Yonosa - 2009-07-13
igordesu Wrote:I politely disagree, especially since you are judging my "beliefs" when I haven't stated or hinted at them besides the fact that perhaps I am not a christian. So (；・∀・)ﾔﾒﾙYonosa Wrote:I think that if you actually, honestly think about it, you'll find that your own beliefs are just as silly as everyone elsesigordesu Wrote:Come on now, there's really no need to be sarcastic and disrespectful of other people's beliefs, especially in a place like this (trust me, I've learned my lesson ;])...I like to make fun of silly ideas... ooops there I go agaiN! ごめんなさいぃぃぃ！
Trouble With Tae Kim - bombpersons - 2009-07-13
やっぱり！
Trouble With Tae Kim - bodhisamaya - 2009-07-13
Yonosa,
You have really brought an juvenile tone to most of the threads you have posted on here so far. Kind of lower the volume on the inappropriate remarks if you don't mind. Just start over and kind of flow with the shared goal of improved language skills most of the users here are trying to achieve. Most people I think will forget the things you have said over time if it these type of remarks aren't repeated.
Trouble With Tae Kim - Yonosa - 2009-07-13
bodhisamaya Wrote:Yonosa,Actually upon further reading of AJATT, and upon realizing the path to fluency is already laid out in front of me and I know where all the resources I need are already, I have decided to check these pages only once every 2 weeks. I will quit this site cold turkey and push 英語 completely out of my life, this was literally the last unnecessary thing left, but it's just that unnecerssary. I'll check back every 2 weeks or so though to see if you guys found any great new resources and stuff, everyone let's ganbarou! we can do it! Everyone try not to spend too much time as I had been on here too! We have fun to be had and work to be done, またね。
You have really brought an juvenile tone to most of the threads you have posted on here so far. Kind of lower the volume on the inappropriate remarks if you don't mind. Just start over and kind of flow with the shared goal of improved language skills most of the users here are trying to achieve. Most people I think will forget the things you have said over time if it these type of remarks aren't repeated.
Trouble With Tae Kim - igordesu - 2009-07-13
Yonosa Wrote:Don't get me wrong, I'm not specifically judging your "beliefs," neither do I care what they areigordesu Wrote:I politely disagree, especially since you are judging my "beliefs" when I haven't stated or hinted at them besides the fact that perhaps I am not a christian. So (；・∀・)ﾔﾒﾙYonosa Wrote:I like to make fun of silly ideas... ooops there I go agaiN! ごめんなさいぃぃぃ！I think that if you actually, honestly think about it, you'll find that your own beliefs are just as silly as everyone elses
I'm just try to say that sarcastically making fun of other beliefs that are different of yours in a place like this is...silly. My point was that the topic of religious beliefs, etc (coming from anybody) is always bound to go in a silly yet angry direction for most people in a place like this.