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Anki iPhone app dropping soon - who's buying? - Smackle - 2010-05-28

kapalama Wrote:Does resolve=Damien=author of the PC version of Anki?

Yes

Anki iPhone app dropping soon - who's buying? - Tobberoth - 2010-05-28

slivir Wrote:Ah ok, I'll buy it anyway in the event I eventually get around to getting wireless for the home. Not too keen on jailbreaking.

It takes one second and is perfectly safe. WHY not jailbreak?

Anki iPhone app dropping soon - who's buying? - Asriel - 2010-05-28

Tobberoth Wrote:It takes one second and is perfectly safe. WHY not jailbreak?

I dont have any iStuff (yet) but you can still use the app store and everything, correct? I suppose it invalidates warranties and stuff too, right? Then again, I have no idea, so this is just speculation from an outsider's point of view.

I second the question about old hardware. If one were to have, say, a 2nd gen iPod Touch, which might be for sale at a 2nd hand store for relatively cheap, would it run EBPocket/iDic/other dictionary programs and AnkiSRS well? Would it justify the purchase instead of waiting and saving up to get a new one?

Anki iPhone app dropping soon - who's buying? - squarezebra - 2010-05-28

Um, this probably isn't the place to ask, but I thought someone might have a quick answer. I've just done my reviews on Anki iphone app, and hit sync. Yet the data hasn't changed on the anki-online server .. it still shows 26 that ive just reviewd on the app as cards to be reviewed. Is it possible that I'm missing something here?

Thanks

Anki iPhone app dropping soon - who's buying? - captal - 2010-05-28

fugu68 Wrote:
Kubelek Wrote:anybody using it on original i pod touch 1g? I don't know whether to splash out for a new 3g ipod touch or just buy the oldest, cheapest thing. I was worried it would be much slower though.
I'm also interested in the answer to this - I thought I might pick up a cheap 1gen touch (or at a pinch a 2gen) just to run this app and maybe EBPocket. How are people finding the speed on the older hardware?

Just realized I have a 1st gen- I thought mine was 2nd since I only got it two years ago, but after checking the apple site I was wrong.

It's running just fine on my 1st gen, but I (obviously) haven't tested media cards yet. Once in a while I get a short bit of lag when the answer pops up, but nothing serious.

Anki iPhone app dropping soon - who's buying? - Blahah - 2010-05-28

Asriel Wrote:I dont have any iStuff (yet) but you can still use the app store and everything, correct? I suppose it invalidates warranties and stuff too, right? Then again, I have no idea, so this is just speculation from an outsider's point of view.

Yes, all the functions of an unjailbroken device are kept after jailbreaking. Your warranty will not be honoured by Apple if you return a jailbroken device to them, however you can simply restore your iDevice using iTunes and there is absolutely no way for them to tell it was ever jailbroken, so your warranty is valid again.

Asriel Wrote:I second the question about old hardware. If one were to have, say, a 2nd gen iPod Touch, which might be for sale at a 2nd hand store for relatively cheap, would it run EBPocket/iDic/other dictionary programs and AnkiSRS well? Would it justify the purchase instead of waiting and saving up to get a new one?

Yes, you can most modern apps (including EBPocket and AnkiSRS) on a 2nd Gen iPod Touch. You would have to upgrade to the latest firmware to ensure compatibility.

squarezebra Wrote:Um, this probably isn't the place to ask, but I thought someone might have a quick answer. I've just done my reviews on Anki iphone app, and hit sync. Yet the data hasn't changed on the anki-online server .. it still shows 26 that ive just reviewd on the app as cards to be reviewed. Is it possible that I'm missing something here?

Try hard-refreshing the AnkiOnline page, or go back to the decks menu in AnkiOnline and re-open the deck.

Anki iPhone app dropping soon - who's buying? - kapalama - 2010-05-28

Tobberoth Wrote:It takes one second and is perfectly safe. WHY not jailbreak?

Because then you are stuck in a having to keep up with the Jailbreak cycle whenever the iPod/iPhone software is updated, because Apple is doing its best to break the jailbreak. 'JUst works' is the reason why the app store is popular.

Anki iPhone app dropping soon - who's buying? - squarezebra - 2010-05-28

Blahah Wrote:
squarezebra Wrote:Um, this probably isn't the place to ask, but I thought someone might have a quick answer. I've just done my reviews on Anki iphone app, and hit sync. Yet the data hasn't changed on the anki-online server .. it still shows 26 that ive just reviewd on the app as cards to be reviewed. Is it possible that I'm missing something here?
Try hard-refreshing the AnkiOnline page, or go back to the decks menu in AnkiOnline and re-open the deck.

Hmm, Ive tried loggin in and out, and even deleting my deck and resyncing and doing the cards again. It seems the server sends information to my application, but the application isn't telling the servers what cards i've done. Sad

Anki iPhone app dropping soon - who's buying? - sethg - 2010-05-28

squarezebra, make sure you don't have two anki instances open at once. Like, the desktop client or AnkiOnline while you're syncing from the iPod. You should only have one active at a time.

Anki iPhone app dropping soon - who's buying? - Tobberoth - 2010-05-28

kapalama Wrote:
Tobberoth Wrote:It takes one second and is perfectly safe. WHY not jailbreak?
Because then you are stuck in a having to keep up with the Jailbreak cycle whenever the iPod/iPhone software is updated, because Apple is doing its best to break the jailbreak. 'JUst works' is the reason why the app store is popular.

iPhones are not updated so often that it matters, and when they are updated, the jailbreak is usually out in no-time, or you simply skip updating since 99% of the time, there's no noticable improvements what so ever.

The jailbreak adds more functionality to your iPhone than 10 apple updates anyway.

It's not like you're "stuck" anyway, a iTunes restore fixes it automatically if you desperately want an update.

Anki iPhone app dropping soon - who's buying? - sethg - 2010-05-28

It resolved (no pun intended) for both my friend and I, but just btw, after the first sync from the app, my desktop deck was corrupted. I restarted Anki (desktop) and did a full database check and all seems to be fine now. Same thing happened with my friend.

Obviously not a huge issue, but might scare some newer users.

Anki iPhone app dropping soon - who's buying? - DavidZ - 2010-05-28

Groot Wrote:Just spent an hour reviewing, and loved it. But a couple questions.

1. In the app, is there any way to adjust the "new cards per day" attribute? I ask because I enthusiastically whizzed through my daily reviews and wanted to do some extra ones -- but I couldn't figure out how to grab a few extra cards from inside the app. I assume I have to sync with my PC, increase the "new cards per day" field there, then re-sync?

resolve Wrote:1) yep, it'll be in the first update, and 'learn more' too

I just finished my first day of reviews on the new app. After spending the past six months using iAnki on the iPhone, I think the app is a great improvement over iAnki in terms of ease of syncing, startup speed, and support for undo & "mark" functionality.

I think the one area where iAnki actually still has an edge over the app is that it's currently impossible to learn more new cards after you've reached your daily limit.

(To be honest I don't understand why there has to be a limit -- am I missing something? I guess I got used to the RevTK model where there is no set daily limit. But I suppose that's a topic for another thread.)

Very happy with the app overall, and looking forward to the addition of "learn more" in the first update so that I can retire iAnki for good.

Anki iPhone app dropping soon - who's buying? - vileru - 2010-05-28

Off-topic:

Tobberoth Wrote:The jailbreak adds more functionality to your iPhone than 10 apple updates anyway

Do you think the added functionality of jailbreaking is useful for studying Japanese on the iPhone, and if so, then why?

At the moment, I see no convincing reason to jailbreak for the purpose of learning Japanese. My apps are all Japanese learning apps. Therefore, I don't see any benefits to Cydia unless it offers high quality Japanese learning apps I couldn't get otherwise. I have no use for the customization available to a jailbroken iPhone either.

However, I could be missing something. And if I find out that jailbreaking gives a real advantage to studying Japanese, then I'm saying sayonara to Apple's proprietary software.

Anki iPhone app dropping soon - who's buying? - Blahah - 2010-05-28

vileru Wrote:Off-topic:

Tobberoth Wrote:The jailbreak adds more functionality to your iPhone than 10 apple updates anyway
Do you think the added functionality of jailbreaking is useful for studying Japanese on the iPhone, and if so, then why?

Wow, you're completely missing out on multitasking. With ProSwitcher (open source jailbroken app) you can hold the home button (or use any customised gesture) to open an app-switcher, change to another app, then come back to the first app without ever closing it. So for example you can be reading a manga, switch to a dictionary to look up the word, then switch back to the same page in the manga.

OS4 will bring a sort of multitasking, but not like this - it won't actually keep apps running at the same time and current apps won't automatically be supported. Jailbreaking is the only way to do it.

see how pretty: http://goo.gl/EwV0

Anki iPhone app dropping soon - who's buying? - Grinkers - 2010-05-28

I found multitasking pretty underwhelming on my 3G iphone. If I had a 3Gs I'd be all over it, but I just don't have enough ram.

I jailbreak only for Anki (now I don't need it), SSH, and flashlight. I like SBSettings a lot (I think that's what it's called), but it slows down my phone too much. So I haven't found much Japanese-learning use from jailbreaking either.

Anki iPhone app dropping soon - who's buying? - squarezebra - 2010-05-28

sethg Wrote:squarezebra, make sure you don't have two anki instances open at once. Like, the desktop client or AnkiOnline while you're syncing from the iPod. You should only have one active at a time.

Nope, I can open/close/unclose applications on desktop, web, iphone etc, but the communication between the iphone and server is still 1 way. Server sends info to the phone, but it doesn't get relayed back, despite receiving a message that says it has sent data to the server Sad

It kinda defeats the whole object for me, as I'd have to do the cards twice ... once on my iphone, and then at home on my desktop at the end of the day if i was to make use of this.
Is nobody having similar syncing problems?

Anki iPhone app dropping soon - who's buying? - Tobberoth - 2010-05-28

vileru Wrote:Off-topic:

Tobberoth Wrote:The jailbreak adds more functionality to your iPhone than 10 apple updates anyway
Do you think the added functionality of jailbreaking is useful for studying Japanese on the iPhone, and if so, then why?

At the moment, I see no convincing reason to jailbreak for the purpose of learning Japanese. My apps are all Japanese learning apps. Therefore, I don't see any benefits to Cydia unless it offers high quality Japanese learning apps I couldn't get otherwise. I have no use for the customization available to a jailbroken iPhone either.

However, I could be missing something. And if I find out that jailbreaking gives a real advantage to studying Japanese, then I'm saying sayonara to Apple's proprietary software.

I wasn't aware that the iPhone was a japanese learning tool and that the only important thing you ever do on it was learn Japanese. You jailbreak because it makes your iPhone better, not to learn Japanese.

Anki iPhone app dropping soon - who's buying? - Smackle - 2010-05-28

Tobberoth Wrote:I wasn't aware that the iPhone was a japanese learning tool and that the only important thing you ever do on it was learn Japanese. You jailbreak because it makes your iPhone better, not to learn Japanese.

It's a Japanese learning tool that coincidentally makes calls. The iPad however:
http://forum.koohii.com/showthread.php?pid=87194#pid87194

Anki iPhone app dropping soon - who's buying? - resolve - 2010-05-28

blackmacros Wrote:So just quickly reading through this thread it seems like there is currently an issue with syncing large decks? Mine is 67 MB because I use it as a sort of media-database; I keep all of my subs2srs cards (and all my other cards) in one deck, so I can search through it and activate any media-cards containing a new word I'm learning. Will a deck this large sync with the app currently? If not I'll probably wait until an update rolls round before I buy it.

It should be about a week until the update is available in the app store.

Anki iPhone app dropping soon - who's buying? - resolve - 2010-05-28

squarezebra Wrote:
sethg Wrote:squarezebra, make sure you don't have two anki instances open at once. Like, the desktop client or AnkiOnline while you're syncing from the iPod. You should only have one active at a time.
Nope, I can open/close/unclose applications on desktop, web, iphone etc, but the communication between the iphone and server is still 1 way. Server sends info to the phone, but it doesn't get relayed back, despite receiving a message that says it has sent data to the server

Probably your counts are just out of sync. Are you sure you didn't modify both the local deck and the server side before syncing? Anyway, on your desktop run a DB check, then sync. That will force the full deck to the server. Then sync with the iStuff client and it will grab the full, checked deck from the server.

Anki iPhone app dropping soon - who's buying? - ninetimes - 2010-05-28

Smackle Wrote:The iPad however:

While it is of limited utility presently, with the right software -- say, a Japanese reader with J-J popup dictionary support, much like the existing English one, it could be pretty portably fantastic.

And of course anki for iPad so there are bigger buttons to press! . . . okay so I'm just trying to stay topical.

Kind of a pipe dream though re; the reader, can't imagine there is much of a market for it. Although I am a bit unawares as to the proliferation of ebooks in Japan.

Anki iPhone app dropping soon - who's buying? - kapalama - 2010-05-28

How does the app sync? Is it sync the computer Anki to the site, and then sync the iPod Touch from the site?

Anki iPhone app dropping soon - who's buying? - resolve - 2010-05-28

yep

Anki iPhone app dropping soon - who's buying? - kapalama - 2010-05-28

This is an odd question but what happens when if server goes down, or you get sick of dealing with whiny people and stop paying the server bills or whatever?

I assume part of the reason to develop this app is to have an income source that pays server bills.

(How many people have donated to you at the Anki site? I gave you $50.00 so I am wonderful, but have you gotten many other donations?)

Anki iPhone app dropping soon - who's buying? - resolve - 2010-05-28

http://ichi2.net/anki/wiki/AnkiMobile#AnkiOnline

In good months donations were about 1/3rd of a regular salary. This month, partly due to PayPal issues, there weren't many at all.