Tzadeck Wrote:Just a quick question: In Kansai people do a negative version of ておく. For example, today I heard someone say 忘れんといて as 'don't forget'. Is that in standard Japanese or just a dialect thing?

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john555 Wrote:Here's the last sentence from my reading passage. Could someone please tell me if I'm interpreting it properly:

戦後でクラリスマスの行事などその本来の意味とは異なったものではありながら随分盛んに行われているようである。

In the postwar period it appears that events like Christmas and so on, although they differ from these original meanings, are being celebrated in a big way.

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Yup!

drdunlap Wrote:Yeah 忘れんといて etc is Kansai-ben but it's just a dialect version of a negative request (like 忘れないで(ください)).

sparky14 Wrote:Hey everyone, I'm just not getting this one at all

今まではゲームする側でしたが、ちょっと実験の意味合いも込めて投下してみました

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Vempele Wrote:見る is "to see/look at/...", 診る is a doctor examining a patient.

john555 Wrote:Hi everyone, can someone please help me with the "hodo" in this sentence:

一学期の最後の講義を終った時ほど心のくつろぎを感ずる瞬間はない。

I think the sentence means that "you don't have a moment for feeling relaxed [feeling relaxation in your heart] until the time when the last lecture of a semester has been delivered."

Is the "hodo" here like a negative comparison, i.e., there does not exist a moment for relaxation as much as a moment exists at the time when the last lecture has been delivered?

(i.e., on the model of "Ringo wa orenzi hodo takaku arimasen" = Apples are not as expensive as oranges).

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anotherjohn Wrote:I am (belatedly) reading through the A Dictionary of Basic/Intermediate/Advanced Japanese Grammar series & just got to the part about いる, hoping it would shed some light on what seem to me to be possible ambiguities, but it didn't. Am I missing something?

このチームにはいいクオーターバックがいる。
Given: This team has a good quarterback.
Possible?: This team needs a good quarterback.

この子にはいい家庭教師がいる。
Given: This child needs a good tutor.
Possible?: This child has a good tutor.

Obviously kanji can be used disambiguate writing, but the book doesn't use them, and that still leaves speech. Is it just a matter of falling back to a default interpretation in the absence of context?

Edit: added the optional に to the first sentence to make the comparison clearer.

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john555 Wrote:Hi everyone, can someone please help me with the "hodo" in this sentence:

一学期の最後の講義を終った時ほど心のくつろぎを感ずる瞬間はない。

I think the sentence means that "you don't have a moment for feeling relaxed [feeling relaxation in your heart] until the time when the last lecture of a semester has been delivered."

Is the "hodo" here like a negative comparison, i.e., there does not exist a moment for relaxation as much as a moment exists at the time when the last lecture has been delivered?

(i.e., on the model of "Ringo wa orenzi hodo takaku arimasen" = Apples are not as expensive as oranges).

Thanks!

I think there are some parsing problems here so I'll try to break it down.

心のくつろぎを感ずる瞬間 = moment where you feel relaxed (or something along those lines)

一学期の最後の講義を終った時 = time when the semester's final lecture has ended

(一学期の最後の講義を終った時)ほど(心のくつろぎを感ずる瞬間) = moment as relaxing as the time when a semester's final lecture has just ended.


Complete the sentence and you get:

(一学期の最後の講義を終った時ほど心のくつろぎを感ずる瞬間)はない。= No moment as relaxing as the time when a semester's final lecture has just ended.

Does this help?

john555 Wrote:Hi, this one has me stumped. I think the problem for me is the "ろうかなどとも" part in the middle. If the textbook had used kanji where possible that might have helped, but alas.... Thanks in advance.

(Note: 清少納言 is a proper name, Sei Shonagon, a Heian Period "authoress and diarist" from around 1,000 AD).

清少納言ならばこの心持をどんな言葉で表したろうかなどとも思って見るのである。

sparky14 Wrote:Hey everyone, I'm having trouble with this sentence. It's the first sentence from a game description.

“幸せになると死んでしまう疫病” の蔓延した隔離世界

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