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Monolingual popup dictionary? - Amset - 2009-05-19

There's a program called StarDict which is a popup dictionary, like rikaichan, but you can use it outside of firefox, so I find it useful. However, there don't seem to be any J>J dictionaries on the website for that program, and I couldn't find any on google. Can anyone think of a way to get a J>J popup dictionary?

stardict website: http://stardict.sourceforge.net/Dictionaries.php

(Also, I kind of rely on rikaichan for reading things, so it'd be good if I could get a japanese popup dictionary to appeal to my laziness in looking things up by typing lol Tongue)

Monolingual popup dictionary? - Jarvik7 - 2009-05-19

There are no free J-J dictionaries. Unless EPWING or one of the more minor commercial formats can be converted to Stardict, you're hooped.

If you use OSX there is a built-in system-wide popup dictionary for E-E, J-J, E-J, J-E, J thesaurus, E thesaurus, all of which are pro commercial dictionaries.

Monolingual popup dictionary? - ahibba - 2009-05-19

No, there ARE J<>J dictionaries for StarDict. Try:

http://prdownloads.sourceforge.net/stardict/stardict-babylon-meikyo_jpn_jpn-2.4.2.tar.bz2?download

If you, or anyone, wants more J<>J, send me a PM.

Monolingual popup dictionary? - Jarvik7 - 2009-05-19

Judging by the filename that's the Meikyo dict. I wonder how it's legal for them to distribute that for free.

Monolingual popup dictionary? - ahibba - 2009-05-20

Aside from the legality of their free distribution of the dictionary, what do you think about it?

What is the equivalent of this dict in English? How difficult are the definitions? Are there enough examples?

If you are familiar with J<>J dictionaries, what are the best ones? and why?

Monolingual popup dictionary? - Tobberoth - 2009-05-20

If you own a Mac, you can use the 大辞林 dictionary in the OS X dictionary application. OS X applications are all connected in a cool way, meaning that you can use the dictionary in most OS X apps. I think the command is shift+command+d.

Monolingual popup dictionary? - ahibba - 2009-05-20

Quote:you can use the 大辞林 dictionary
Daijirin is a good dictionary, and it's better than Koujien. But isn't Daijisen 大辞泉 more suitable for us? It's similar to Daijirin, but the example sentences and phrases in Daijisen are more often typical of the contemporary language rather than citations from classical literature.

Monolingual popup dictionary? - Tobberoth - 2009-05-20

ahibba Wrote:
Quote:you can use the 大辞林 dictionary
Daijirin is a good dictionary, and it's better than Koujien. But isn't Daijisen 大辞泉 more suitable for us? It's similar to Daijirin, but the example sentences and phrases in Daijisen are more often typical of the contemporary language rather than citations from classical literature.
I think you're mixing them up, 大辞林 only has a few citations form classical literature and it's clearly noted when a citation is taken form an old source. Entries in 大辞林 are also ordered by frequency, unlike 大辞泉. It should also be noted that 大辞林 usually has much easier definitions.

Personally, I think 大辞林 is the ultimate J-J dictionary to use.

Monolingual popup dictionary? - mentat_kgs - 2009-05-20

You can use both.

Monolingual popup dictionary? - ahibba - 2009-05-20

Entries in 大辞泉 are not ordered by frequency?!

I know that Koujien arranges entries in historical order, but I think 大辞泉 does not. They say that 大辞泉 is practically a twin of 大辞林.

Monolingual popup dictionary? - Tobberoth - 2009-05-20

ahibba Wrote:Entries in 大辞泉 are not ordered by frequency?!

I know that Koujien arranges entries in historical order, but I think 大辞泉 does not. They say that 大辞泉 is practically a twin of 大辞林.
Yeah, seems true. The main difference between them is the pictures, which makes no difference for us since we use digital versions.

Monolingual popup dictionary? - Jarvik7 - 2009-05-20

My digital versions have pictures intact...

Monolingual popup dictionary? - ahibba - 2009-05-21

Quote:My digital versions have pictures intact...
What are your version?

Mine are in EPWING format.

Monolingual popup dictionary? - Jarvik7 - 2009-05-21

EPWING format supports color pictures, videos, sound, etc. Whatever you downloaded probably just has it stripped out, is an older edition which didn't have it to begin with, or your reader doesn't support it.

Monolingual popup dictionary? - Tobberoth - 2009-05-21

I use dic.yahoo.co.jp.

Monolingual popup dictionary? - ahibba - 2009-05-21

Quote:Whatever you downloaded probably just has it stripped out, is an older edition which didn't have it to begin with, or your reader doesn't support it.
I never said that my EPWING version doesn't have color pictures Smile

Monolingual popup dictionary? - renaldhebert - 2009-07-17

What other pop-up J-J dictionaries are there? Also, does anyone know how to convert an epwing format dictionary into a format that will be accepted by stardict or rikaichan?
I feel this would be EXTREMELY useful for studying Japanese...

Monolingual popup dictionary? - jino123 - 2009-07-23

For me Stardic doesn't work !
It seems that it can't recognize japanese characters.

[Image: 10h1xc9.jpg]

Could anyone help me?

Monolingual popup dictionary? - wahnfrieden - 2009-08-20

@IceCream I haven't been able to find anything, really. So I'm making my own. Though I'm first writing a dictionary server (for EPWING) so that you can use whatever dictionaries you want. That part is almost done actually, so I'm focusing now on an online SRS, after which I will add the Rikai-clone that can use the dictionary server, and then easily integrate with my SRS. This will all be usable locally or remotely on the web, without the restriction of using EDICT for everything, like other web services out there.

Monolingual popup dictionary? - bombpersons - 2009-08-21

wahnfrieden Wrote:@IceCream I haven't been able to find anything, really. So I'm making my own. Though I'm first writing a dictionary server (for EPWING) so that you can use whatever dictionaries you want. That part is almost done actually, so I'm focusing now on an online SRS, after which I will add the Rikai-clone that can use the dictionary server, and then easily integrate with my SRS. This will all be usable locally or remotely on the web, without the restriction of using EDICT for everything, like other web services out there.
So will we be able to use any of our dictionaries just like rikaichan? In an internet browser? Wow, this sounds awesome! I can't believe you've got so far already =D

Monolingual popup dictionary? - wahnfrieden - 2009-08-21

@IceCream EPWING is the most common format for commercial Japanese dictionaries, like Kenkyusha and Genius or the monolingual ones. It will work with any of these, but I'll be adding special (automated) formatting for a couple of the more popular ones so that they are easier to use.

@bombpersons that's the goal eventually, but I have a lot of things to make before I do the Rikai clone. There are also some cross-site scripting issues with things like Rikai so I don't think I can do the Rikai part without a browser extension, unless it's just with documents that you've imported or discovered within my site (I plan on making the site a repository of good public domain Japanese texts). But even though the Rikai part is lower priority for me than the other things I'm working on now, I'm going to make my service's REST API public so that other people could pretty easily build a tool that hooks into my infrastructure.

I'm focusing on the browser now, but it's by no means limited to that, thanks to the REST infrastructure I'm developing. I'm going to make a small iPhone client soon after I get the SRS flashcards done, for example.

I have a year of school left, and not many classes, so I'll have loads of time to dedicate to this (it's actually my undergrad "thesis" project, so I'm committed to at least getting SOMETHING out the door Tongue ).

Monolingual popup dictionary? - nest0r - 2009-08-21

I'd like to be able to use Rikaichan or something similar outside Firefox/inside Anki, because I'm extremely lazy.

Monolingual popup dictionary? - nest0r - 2009-08-21

Is there a way to scan items w/ StarDict by just clicking and dragging in Anki. Having to move my fingers over the hotkeys is too much trouble.

Edit: Meh, I guess I can make do with selecting and right-clicking it to my clipboard. For now!

Monolingual popup dictionary? - blackmacros - 2009-08-21

nest0r Wrote:Is there a way to scan items w/ StarDict by just clicking and dragging in Anki. Having to move my fingers over the hotkeys is too much trouble.
That sort of laziness is truly motivating. You make me proud.

Monolingual popup dictionary? - Nukemarine - 2009-12-25

jino123 Wrote:For me Stardic doesn't work !
It seems that it can't recognize japanese characters.

http://i30.tinypic.com/10h1xc9.jpg

Could anyone help me?
I thought I'd give StarDict another shot, and ran into this same problem. Well, I try to change the font to a UTF font similar to what you do with VLC player, but StarDict crashes each time I push the font button in options

First I'm going to re-install StarDict, but if it continues anyone know which file StarDict saves these settings at so I can manually change it.