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Kanzen Master 2kyuu 文法 - kazelee - 2009-08-23
Could someone post a link to this book? I want to make sure I'm looking at the right one.
Kanzen Master 2kyuu 文法 - blackmacros - 2009-08-24
@Jarvik I'm not sure if there is or isn't (or if there was, and its stalled). But since I'm going through and typing up the meanings column anyway, I figure I may as well put them into the community spreadsheet so other people can benefit. As I said though, I'm not typing up the more detailed definition notes, it takes too much time.
EDIT: I'm doing this for the 1kyuu book, to clarify.
@kazelee
1kyuu: http://www.amazon.co.jp/完全マスター1級-日本語能力試験文法問題対策-植木-香/dp/488319356X/ref=sr_1_2?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1246634170&sr=8-2
2kyuu: http://www.amazon.co.jp/%E5%AE%8C%E5%85%A8%E3%83%9E%E3%82%B9%E3%82%BF%E3%83%BC2%E7%B4%9A-%E6%97%A5%E6%9C%AC%E8%AA%9E%E8%83%BD%E5%8A%9B%E8%A9%A6%E9%A8%93%E6%96%87%E6%B3%95%E5%95%8F%E9%A1%8C%E5%AF%BE%E7%AD%96-%E3%82%A2%E3%82%B8%E3%82%A2%E5%AD%A6%E7%94%9F%E6%96%87%E5%8C%96%E5%8D%94%E4%BC%9A%E7%95%99%E5%AD%A6%E7%94%9F%E6%97%A5%E6%9C%AC%E8%AA%9E%E3%82%B3%E3%83%BC%E3%82%B9/dp/4883190889/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1246634170&sr=8-1
Kanzen Master 2kyuu 文法 - Jarvik7 - 2009-08-24
I was just down at the Umeda kinokuniya and I saw that there is a 1/2kyuu kanzen master book specifically for katakana vocab now. It's thick too.
What a waste of trees.
Kanzen Master 2kyuu 文法 - mezbup - 2009-08-24
I found a level 1/2 Q&A workbook online today. Then I found KM2kyuu, the vietnamese version. Haha. I think i'll just buy it because it looks like the best move to make after KO.
Kanzen Master 2kyuu 文法 - timewastin - 2009-08-24
There's also an English version PDF of Kanzen Master 2kyuu around, I used it for my 2kyuu studies. Write me a PM if you want to have it
Kanzen Master 2kyuu 文法 - rrrrrray - 2009-08-25
Is there a link to this project?
Kanzen Master 2kyuu 文法 - TGWeaver - 2009-08-25
Jarvik7 Wrote:I was just down at the Umeda kinokuniya and I saw that there is a 1/2kyuu kanzen master book specifically for katakana vocab now. It's thick too.i'm pretty sure that's for the non-english speaking students. the chinese and koreans i used to study with constantly complained about foreign loan words and how they "weren't really japanese. they're just bad english."
What a waste of trees.
on a different note, have you ever noticed when books have the kanji written down, but the katanana reading?
for example, as the reading for 銃 they have ピストル instead of じゅう。 what's the deal with that?
Kanzen Master 2kyuu 文法 - mezbup - 2009-08-26
timewastin Wrote:There's also an English version PDF of Kanzen Master 2kyuu around, I used it for my 2kyuu studies. Write me a PM if you want to have itI do want it, however... there's no way to PM you?
Kanzen Master 2kyuu 文法 - mezbup - 2009-08-26
timewastin Wrote:awesome thanks!mezbup Wrote:Oh, that's right!timewastin Wrote:There's also an English version PDF of Kanzen Master 2kyuu around, I used it for my 2kyuu studies. Write me a PM if you want to have itI do want it, however... there's no way to PM you?Well, here you are, then:
http://www.mediafire.com/[Removed by 風]
To read it, you need the free program WinDJView.
Kanzen Master 2kyuu 文法 - blackmacros - 2009-08-29
I just finished adding all of the meaning columns to the 1kyuu spreadsheet(except the first 20, when I wasn't doing it) as well as any sentences that were missing from the spreadsheet (which ended up being around 40). I don't think there's anyone actively working on doing that spreadsheet, but at least now it has pretty much all of the sentences (and they are mostly correct) as well as the basic meaning column for anyone who needs it in the future.
Kanzen Master 2kyuu 文法 - mezbup - 2009-08-29
can anyone comment on the learning curve/difficulty of going into KM2 straight after finishing KO?
Kanzen Master 2kyuu 文法 - blackmacros - 2009-08-29
It wasn't too difficult. I encountered new vocab every couple of sentences, but it was definitely much easier than the beginning of KO in this regard. Probably the most difficult part is understanding the Japanese definitions of grammar points, although I found it quite rewarding when I did. I occasionally used jgram if I got stuck with anything though.
Kanzen Master 2kyuu 文法 - chamcham - 2009-09-29
does anyone have a link to the anki file or spreadsheet for Kanzen Master? I have the Kanzen Master Level 2 grammar book.
Kanzen Master 2kyuu 文法 - Rooboy - 2009-09-29
chamcham Wrote:does anyone have a link to the anki file or spreadsheet for Kanzen Master? I have the Kanzen Master Level 2 grammar book.I'd also like it too pretty please. I have the book.
Kanzen Master 2kyuu 文法 - rrrrrray - 2009-09-29
You need to pm skinnyneo with a photo of your book.
I don't understand why he/she is not making it clear on the first post...
Kanzen Master 2kyuu 文法 - mezbup - 2009-09-30
http://spreadsheets.google.com/ccc?key=[ごめん]
Wasn't this link posted in this thread already? Cos it links to some spreadsheet of it. Dunno if its the "sacred" one or not. I don't think it is though but i'm pretty sure its all still the same data from the same book.
Relative HTML version found here:
http://www.b2b99.com/xx/[ごめん]
http://www.japonin.com/intermediate-grammar-list.php
And don't forget about the Kanzen Master link on this orkut page previously linked by another poster:
http://www.orkut.com/[Removed by 風]
You need an account for that last one but it's WELL worth it.
Kanzen Master 2kyuu 文法 - rrrrrray - 2009-09-30
That's the sheet I created from the HTML link due the restriction on the spreadsheet on this thread. The one made in this thread could have some extra info (maybe the reading?) missing from my sheet though. You guys should try to pm skinnyneo and take a look.
Kanzen Master 2kyuu 文法 - mezbup - 2009-09-30
OK well those links are nothing new but whatever. If anyone wants em just PM me.
Kanzen Master 2kyuu 文法 - rrrrrray - 2009-09-30
I understand removing the mediafire link containing a copy of the book, but the links (except orkut) posted by mezbup ? .....
Kanzen Master 2kyuu 文法 - kazelee - 2009-09-30
rrrrrray Wrote:I understand removing the mediafire link containing a copy of the book, but the links (except orkut) posted by mezbup ? .....They seemed to be copies of sentences and grammar points taken straight from the book. If I am wrong, someone, please let me know .^^
Kanzen Master 2kyuu 文法 - rrrrrray - 2009-10-01
I've read the rules carefully and I believe user compiled content based entirely on copyrighted material is tolerable in this forum.
It is difficult to draw the line, and the links indeed contain edited copyrighted content. I don't really blame you for being strict about this.
Kanzen Master 2kyuu 文法 - Nukemarine - 2009-10-02
rrrrrray,
What we've done with user generated list from copyrighted sources (KO2001, UBJG, Kanzen Master, Making Out in Japanese, etc) is not to share the list except with those that provide a little proof of ownership. It's not perfect, but it's been generally accepted as tolerable.
Seeing that we're a fairly visible forum in Japanese learning circles, and have been doing copyrighted transcriptions for the last 2 years without a major gripe from owners (exception being the Spanish RTK author I think), we're probably taking the right path.
Lists of Common User sources can freely be posted (iKnow and Tae Kim for example).
Kanzen Master 2kyuu 文法 - Rooboy - 2009-10-05
Skinnyneo seems to be on holidays or has missed my PM.
Anyone else able to help an old timer out here? Will happliy provide proof of purchase.
To give you more motivation to help me I'll let you know that i've signed up for 2kyuu this december. There are a number of people asking why i left a half decent career/business to study japanese and generally bemoaning it. As I can't really "prove" my japanese ability to them a nice piece of official paper with a certified pass would be nice to rub their noses in
Kanzen Master 2kyuu 文法 - kyeenak - 2009-10-06
Rooboy Wrote:Skinnyneo seems to be on holidays or has missed my PM.I too would like access. I just bought the book today, and can take a picture of it. If you have access to share it please post so we don't all have to make a separate post please! Thanks!
Kanzen Master 2kyuu 文法 - Jarvik7 - 2009-10-06
I'll be selling my copy of the book shortly (as well as the 2kyuu reading book), so if anyone wants to get it off me let me know via pm. Due to shipping costs it only makes sense if you're in japan, preferably Nagoya.
Payment by paypal or cash in person.