I didn't know MS Word could do that, did you?

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I didn't know MS Word could do that, did you? - CharleyGarrett - 2006-12-07

As I'm studying, I came across the idea of, after typing my lesson in Japanese, using a word processor to add the furigana. But JWPce doesn't do that. WAKAN, while it will DISPLAY and PRINT furigana, doesn't actually let you put it in...so if it doesn't know the reading then tough luck. I came across a website, in searching for a WP that would do the job, and found a guy talking about how lots of us already have a tool on our PC's that'll do the job. And then described how to make it work. In MS Word terminology, furigana is a pronunciation guide. So, briefly, you put in the kanji, select it, and then go to format/Asian layout/pronunciation guide and then it brings up a dialog box that will let you type in the "Ruby text".

Cool!

So, because of all the OTHER stuff that JWPce can do, with dictionaries especially, I'm not about to completely switch over to Word, but I'll definitely use it a bit more often than I ever did before. I thought I'd share that with y'all.

Charley Garrett
Cusseta, Georgia, USA

I didn't know MS Word could do that, did you? - laxxy - 2006-12-08

I am mostly using Google documents to edit Japanese texts, this way I can use rikaichan as the dictionary and utilize MS IME instead of the rather poor JWPce one.
I do still use JWPce to prepare wordlists and convert Japanese encodings though.

I didn't know MS Word could do that, did you? - Ramchip - 2006-12-08

Believe it or not, this helped me in my physics assignment. I wanted to put a small arrow on top of a letter to show the variable is a vector. Well, I copied the arrow character into the pronunciation field and it worked Big Grin

Thanks for the tip!

I didn't know MS Word could do that, did you? - wrightak - 2006-12-09

laxxy Wrote:I am mostly using Google documents to edit Japanese texts, this way I can use rikaichan as the dictionary and utilize MS IME instead of the rather poor JWPce one.
I do still use JWPce to prepare wordlists and convert Japanese encodings though.

You can use MS IME with JWPce. I always do.

I didn't know MS Word could do that, did you? - laxxy - 2006-12-09

wrightak Wrote:
laxxy Wrote:I am mostly using Google documents to edit Japanese texts, this way I can use rikaichan as the dictionary and utilize MS IME instead of the rather poor JWPce one.
I do still use JWPce to prepare wordlists and convert Japanese encodings though.
You can use MS IME with JWPce. I always do.

Vow, actually it seems that now I can. I am sure it wasn't working before. Could it be because I recently changed the code page to Japanese (due to other reasons)? Do you have it set as Japanese?

I didn't know MS Word could do that, did you? - laxxy - 2006-12-09

Ramchip Wrote:Believe it or not, this helped me in my physics assignment. I wanted to put a small arrow on top of a letter to show the variable is a vector. Well, I copied the arrow character into the pronunciation field and it worked

Thanks for the tip!

Huh, thanks, you too! I think I'll be using this Smile

I need to check if Powerpoint has the same functionality. [edit: no, it does not, the symbols copied from Word copy as "X(→)" which makes sense].
btw -- you can enter ←　&　→　by feeding <- and -> into the IME.
another nice one I know is まる for lots of circles like ○◎●〇①㊤゜, / for a separator dot ・, = for ≠≒, and the brackets characters for fancy brackets. And, of course, you can edit and add your own -- sometimes it's quite convenient.

I wonder if anyone knows any other IME tricks.

I didn't know MS Word could do that, did you? - Mighty_Matt - 2006-12-09

Similar to まる for circles and the like, you can also use the word ばつ for ? (although there's only one choice of cross).

Hmm... it would appear that although the cross appears in the editing box, it gets lost on submission and turns into a question mark. But try it out for yourself.

I didn't know MS Word could do that, did you? - CharleyGarrett - 2006-12-09

You said something about using Google documents so that you could use Rikaichan. That seems interesting. I'm having a bit of a problem with JWPce's dictionary look up (having to do with high-lighting or selecting the text to look up. With Rikaichan, and Wakan, both, you look up the word that the pointer is on, if it is the first character of the word, or just the character, if it is not the first character of the word. That is faster, or good, compared to the JWPce method.

So, what is a Google document?

I didn't know MS Word could do that, did you? - wrightak - 2006-12-09

laxxy Wrote:Vow, actually it seems that now I can. I am sure it wasn't working before. Could it be because I recently changed the code page to Japanese (due to other reasons)? Do you have it set as Japanese?

I'm not exactly sure about what you mean here but with the three options at the top for kanji, ascii and jascii, I always have it set to ascii and just use IME on top instead. It even works on the pocket pc version. The frustrating thing is that it always defaults to kanji when you load it up.

I didn't know MS Word could do that, did you? - laxxy - 2006-12-09

Yup, actually I am quite sure now that the difference is all about the Windows code page. I tried it at work just now and it does not work (neither in kanji nor in ascii mode) -- anything entered via Windows IME turns into ?????'s. It used to be the same way on my home PC, and the only reason I can think of that it works now is because I changed the codepage (Control Panel-> Advanced -> Language for non-Unicode programs) to Japanese there.

As for Google documents, log into your gmail account and click on Docs and Spreadsheets on the top left. Or click on "more>>" in google search.

I didn't know MS Word could do that, did you? - Pangolin - 2006-12-10

Google documents allows you to upload or create spreadsheets or WP documents in your browser and then publish them as web pages. Once you have done that you can use Rikaichan or other look up methods on them.

Here is an example of a Japanese pop song lyric I "published" as an example.

http://docs.google.com/View?docid=dfjrtt2h_0djzqps

Google Docs homepage:
http://docs.google.com/

You need a Google account.

I didn't know MS Word could do that, did you? - laxxy - 2006-12-10

Pangolin Wrote:Google documents allows you to upload or create spreadsheets or WP documents in your browser and then publish them as web pages. Once you have done that you can use Rikaichan or other look up methods on them.

Here is an example of a Japanese pop song lyric I "published" as an example.

http://docs.google.com/View?docid=dfjrtt2h_0djzqps

Google Docs homepage:
http://docs.google.com/

You need a Google account.

You don't really need to publish them, you can use rikaichan right in the edit window.

I didn't know MS Word could do that, did you? - the_marshal - 2006-12-11

The MS IME only work in JWPCE if you have the code page set to Japanese. There is an utility from MS (for XP/2k only) for changing the code page of only one application but it doesn't do the trick for JWPCE. I you're using english and japanese only changing the code page might not be a big deal. Personally I don't want to mess with it and have problem with non unicode application in French/German...

I didn't know MS Word could do that, did you? - ファブリス - 2006-12-11

Yep, changing the code page leads to some characters appearing as kanji in non-japanese software. However I don't remember seeing a program disfunctioning or crashing due to the different code page.

I didn't know MS Word could do that, did you? - ファブリス - 2006-12-13

Quote:btw -- you can enter ←　&　→　by feeding <- and -> into the IME.
another nice one I know is まる for lots of circles like ○◎●〇①㊤゜, / for a separator dot ・, = for ≠≒, and the brackets characters for fancy brackets. And, of course, you can edit and add your own -- sometimes it's quite convenient.

Do you know the shortcuts for the star ☆ ? And maybe there's one for little hearts too, hehe ^_^ ?

pps: oh, and is there a character for this thing that looks like a teardrop with 3 dashes in it? It's like an emoticon for *blush*, I saw it in a handwritten letter, but I don't know if it's used in emails.

I didn't know MS Word could do that, did you? - laxxy - 2006-12-14

ファブリス Wrote:
Quote:btw -- you can enter ←　&　→　by feeding <- and -> into the IME.
another nice one I know is まる for lots of circles like ○◎●〇①㊤゜, / for a separator dot ・, = for ≠≒, and the brackets characters for fancy brackets. And, of course, you can edit and add your own -- sometimes it's quite convenient.
Do you know the shortcuts for the star ☆ ? And maybe there's one for little hearts too, hehe ^_^ ?

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I didn't know MS Word could do that, did you? - synewave - 2006-12-14

はーと gives me a heart on my text editor but not here...

I didn't know MS Word could do that, did you? - ファブリス - 2006-12-14

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☆★☆ Yayyyyy Thanks ! Big Grin

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I didn't know MS Word could do that, did you? - ファブリス - 2006-12-18

Another quickie : do you know how to make this one in the IME > ♪ ?

I didn't know MS Word could do that, did you? - JimmySeal - 2006-12-18

おんぷ　♪

I didn't know MS Word could do that, did you? - CharleyGarrett - 2006-12-18

How do you get the degree symbol?

I didn't know MS Word could do that, did you? - Pangolin - 2006-12-18

CharleyGarrett Wrote:How do you get the degree symbol?

In IME you can get　゜ with ど and it also comes up with てん, along with a variety of dots, in fact just about anything with a dot, including colons, quotes, etc.

In JWPce (without IME) you can get degree with ど using kanji convert.

I suppose it's a matter of entering the Japanese word for the symbol or shape.

I also found you can get ♀ and ♂ with めす and おす (our good old friends 雄 and 雌 in kanji!) This works in IME and JWPce. What fun.

I didn't know MS Word could do that, did you? - CharleyGarrett - 2006-12-19

Is there a resource, a handbook or a website? Or do y'all just experiment to find useful key combinations?

I didn't know MS Word could do that, did you? - CharleyGarrett - 2007-08-23

Okay, today was something more cool about MS Word and [kana]furigana[/kana]. I typed the sentence in JWPce, got the kanji right, then typed the sentence again in just hiragana. This was so I could paste in the [kana]furigana[/kana] in Word (since I'm still a bum using IME). Okay, so then I highlighted the kanji laden sentence in word, and hit the "format/asian layout/phonetic guide" and poof, surprise, all the furigana was already defaulted for me.

I didn't know it could do that! But I really should learn to use IME too.

I didn't know MS Word could do that, did you? - johnzep - 2007-08-23

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