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Ugliest and most Beutiful kanji? - woodwojr - 2009-02-09
izakaya27 Wrote:I'm with sethg on this one - 夢 is lovely.Meh.
~J
Ugliest and most Beutiful kanji? - Machine_Gun_Cat - 2009-02-10
woodwojr Wrote:terrible joke/izakaya27 Wrote:I'm with sethg on this one - 夢 is lovely.(Yu)Meh.
~J
Ugliest and most Beutiful kanji? - bodhisamaya - 2009-02-10
姦 I feel violated by this kanji and I love it
Ugliest and most Beutiful kanji? - Machine_Gun_Cat - 2009-02-10
^ I always thought of that Janji as a bit sexist TBH
Ugliest and most Beutiful kanji? - Jarvik7 - 2009-02-10
嫐
My idea of a good time.
Ugliest and most Beutiful kanji? - woodwojr - 2009-02-10
Found this page a day or two ago, for fans of 嫐 and 姦.
I can't even begin to classify its safe-for-workness, but it isn't explicit
~J
Ugliest and most Beutiful kanji? - hknamida - 2009-02-10
I like 夢, too. Also, 祭 and 舞 are pretty. I guess I like the 夕 primitive. Unrelated to those, 発 and 零 also strike my fancy.
片, 藁, 美, 鼎, 企, 巨, 当 and 爽 are all hideous.
Ugliest and most Beutiful kanji? - sethg - 2009-02-10
I thought about it, and I really don't like any kanji that use the float, arrow, quiver, or fiesta primitives... except for maybe 成... any others though... just get on my nerves.
Ugliest and most Beutiful kanji? - undead_saif - 2009-02-10
Pcsl88 Wrote:izakaya27 Wrote:I'm with sethg on this one - 夢 is lovely.Me too, that was one of the first word I learned because is very usual in the first anime I saw.
sethg Wrote:夢 is definitely the most attractive kanji ever.So there's something about this 夢 kanji, it's not just me!
YAY lol.
Ugliest and most Beutiful kanji? - Jarvik7 - 2009-02-10
woodwojr Wrote:Found this page a day or two ago, for fans of 嫐 and 姦.brilliant
I can't even begin to classify its safe-for-workness, but it isn't explicit
~J
Ugliest and most Beutiful kanji? - bodhisamaya - 2009-02-10
If 嫐 were an RTK kanji, how could one create a story and not get a ! from the report puritans???
Ugliest and most Beutiful kanji? - woodwojr - 2009-02-10
Presumably by coming up with something so raunchy their heads exploded before they had a chance.
~J
Ugliest and most Beutiful kanji? - QuackingShoe - 2009-02-11
tokyostyle Wrote:Let's be honest here. You can easily remember 姦 and 嫐 without going through the full process of making up a story. Just seeing the kanji is enough to put your imaginative memory into full drive.Really, after finishing RTK, I find essentially all kanji to be that way.
Ugliest and most Beutiful kanji? - ikemasen - 2009-02-11
having 麗 in 奇麗 - is an oxymoron
Ugliest and most Beutiful kanji? - Jarvik7 - 2009-02-11
How so? Look at some of the words 奇 is used in.
奇麗→wondrous beauty isn't much of a stretch.
きれい is more properly written as 綺麗 (fine+lovely) though. 奇 is a simplification for ease of writing.
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Nevermind, now I see that you were suggesting that 麗 is ugly. That's more ironic than an oxymoron I think
Ugliest and most Beutiful kanji? - kaoskastle - 2009-02-11
tokyostyle Wrote:Let's be honest here. You can easily remember 姦 and 嫐 without going through the full process of making up a story. Just seeing the kanji is enough to put your imaginative memory into full drive.I had no idea what those were so I fired up Rikaichan.
I, uh, now permanently know two more kanji.
Ugliest and most Beutiful kanji? - ghinzdra - 2009-02-11
woodwojr Wrote:Presumably by coming up with something so raunchy their heads exploded before they had a chance.You made me roar with laughter
~J
actually I'm fed up with those puritan reporting everything even remotely related to sex .....How can someone read Heisig comment about the making of a story (make them provocative , disgusting , appaling : try to create vivid images by shocking your mind ) , being enough open-minded to give a shot to a device which is still chastised by most of the classical japanese teaching establishement and yet in the same time behave like a character of the scarlet letter ?
Frankly I'm utterly puzzled .
Ugliest and most Beutiful kanji? - Jarvik7 - 2009-02-11
There are a few hardcore religious people that I've noticed on the forums, so I expect the reports come from them.
Ugliest and most Beutiful kanji? - Serge - 2009-02-11
My favourite one is 女.
Machine_Gun_Cat Wrote:I used to feel that way so I know what you mean.Jarvik7 Wrote:Ugliest: Every simplified hanzi. Looking at stuff like 么儿专个气乐发 etc is enough to make one feel nauseous.O MY ***** GODS YES!!!!!
I hate simplified Hanzi it is so ugly, what I hate most is the way they strip characters of their blocks of primitives and replace them with horrible criss crossing bollocks with no meaning stripping characters of their form and meaning.
Every person who knows about my Japanese agrees when I show them a Kanji and then it's simplified equivalent
However, this sentiment completely vanished the moment I came to mainland China and dealing with simplified characters became a daily necessity. Let me elaborate... Do you find the letter "F" ugly? And the letter "S" beautiful? And the letter "P", it's so assymetric! "O" is too simple and "L" looks like a hook. My guess is very few people stop and ponder on aesthetic qualities of the Latin alphabet: they simply don't have the time, they are too busy using those letters to get information.
It's the same with simplified hanzi. You love them or hate them while you're busy learning them. Once you start USING them, they become a means to an end.
Ugliest and most Beutiful kanji? - Jarvik7 - 2009-02-11
I think why I and maybe others find simplified hanzi ugly is because it takes something that is aesthetically pleasing and turns it into something more like our alphabet. I believe that even mainlander Chinese think the same. You don't see them practicing <whatever the Chinese word for 書道 is> with simplified.
The original reason for simplification was wrong anyways. People were illiterate because of war, famine, and economic/political instability, not because the characters were too complex. Once life became more stable they found that further simplifications produced no increases in literacy and actually had the opposite effect due to too many characters being too similar and having no logical construction (this is why the 3rd set of simplifications was recalled).
Ugliest and most Beutiful kanji? - Machine_Gun_Cat - 2009-02-12
hknamida Wrote:I like 夢, too. Also, 祭 and 舞 are pretty. I guess I like the 夕 primitive. Unrelated to those, 発 and 零 also strike my fancy.I absolutely LOVE 祭 it's probably one of my favourites
片, 藁, 美, 鼎, 企, 巨, 当 and 爽 are all hideous.
Ugliest and most Beutiful kanji? - bodhisamaya - 2009-02-12
Anything with Garment/scarf衣, Sow豕, skunk豸, or sign of the hog亥 does not look pleasant to me.
Ugliest and most Beutiful kanji? - Machine_Gun_Cat - 2009-02-12
I agree about some of those, but I think Sow is a truely beutiful radical and can think of fewer more beautiful Kanji than 家
Ugliest and most Beutiful kanji? - joxn_costello - 2009-02-12
I really like 龍. The meaning is cool, of course, and the pictograph of the dragon on the left side is pretty awesome. The simplified 竜 is nowhere near as cool.
Ugliest and most Beutiful kanji? - QuackingShoe - 2009-02-12
Yeah, I'm actually a big fan of 家, and generally other 豕, 豸, or other such kanji. And stuff that involve 幺. And actually, 祭 as well, now that it's mentioned. I've also always liked 恥 just because of the mental image, and a pretty distinct shape. I like 悲 a lot, too. I like the look of 非 in compounds in general, as well as 心, so the combination is nice. 罪 has always caught my attention.
Agree about 龍 vs 竜 as well. I also like related kanji, such as 籠 and 襲. They lack the charm of less complicated characters, though.