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Remembering Of and From and the like - somukeru - 2009-01-23
Anyone have any thoughts on how best to remember stories or mnemonics for very common words like Of and From? Making up sentence or a story that contains the work "of", however prominently, just doesn't seem to work for me.
Remembering Of and From and the like - liosama - 2009-01-23
From; i think rote learning this is safe because it is used in a few characters, and heisigs notion of punch helps out with many of the meanings. ("from" was a borrowed meaning making it hard)
Of; What makes this difficult too is that it has a borrowed meaning, initially it was a pictograph of some shrub or something. I just rote learned this
(Turf, had grass ontop of that shrub, which kinda made sense for that one, but later the bottom part was simplified into 之)
yeah i have problems with "however" and other abstract type ones, my fail pile is roughly 200 atm, but im glad i got the 'untested' pile out of the way (which i have not touched for about 3 weeks).
With these ones though i think it is safe to just rote learn a story for them, something which grips your tongue easily. I kept failing however, until i raged and made my story 'however many times i fail this kanji I picture a poor person studying until night break', perhaps later on i may confuse 'person' with 'self' or something, or 'night break' with "wee hours" but maybe once i start learning readings, they may help-out as the onyomi here is TAN which is nightbreak.
Anyway I will go through the huge ass fail pile tomorrow, hopefully by which I will be able to answer you or seek help from others. Would love to hear others opinions on this too.
Good question ^^
Remembering Of and From and the like - snispilbor - 2009-01-23
This might seem a little weird, but it works for me. I associate "of" with the Spanish "de", which I in turn associate with the Japanese へ particle, which is pronounced え. Of course, 之 is just a less-simplified version of え.
Remembering Of and From and the like - mullr - 2009-01-23
之 has been easy for me ever since a Chinese guy in my Japanese class told me that it's used in Chinese exactly how の is used in Japanese.
Remembering Of and From and the like - Smackle - 2009-01-23
mullr Wrote:之 has been easy for me ever since a Chinese guy in my Japanese class told me that it's used in Chinese exactly how の is used in Japanese.It is also used in Japanese names such as 木之本 in that way.
Remembering Of and From and the like - joxn_costello - 2009-01-23
Smackle Wrote:And ironically (or more confusingly?), the hiragana の is actually a simplified 乃. In old-style fonts you sometimes see an extra dip in the final stroke -- that's where it comes from.mullr Wrote:之 has been easy for me ever since a Chinese guy in my Japanese class told me that it's used in Chinese exactly how の is used in Japanese.It is also used in Japanese names such as 木之本 in that way.
Remembering Of and From and the like - nest0r - 2009-01-23
You might try using titles or phrases that feature those abstract keywords prominently.
Remembering Of and From and the like - Ji_suss - 2009-01-24
Smackle Wrote:It is also used in Japanese names such as 木之本 in that way.BTW How would you pronounce that name?
Remembering Of and From and the like - hknamida - 2009-01-24
Ji_suss Wrote:きのもと, I think.Smackle Wrote:It is also used in Japanese names such as 木之本 in that way.BTW How would you pronounce that name?
Remembering Of and From and the like - Smackle - 2009-01-24
hknamida Wrote:Yes, that is correct.Ji_suss Wrote:きのもと, I think.Smackle Wrote:It is also used in Japanese names such as 木之本 in that way.BTW How would you pronounce that name?
Remembering Of and From and the like - Ji_suss - 2009-01-25
Thanks all.