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JLPT 2008 Cream Puffed? - zodiac - 2008-12-08
captal Wrote:According to the stats for last year, 103,000 people applied to take the JLPT in Japan and 93,000 took it.What happened to the missing 10,000? Didn't bother showing up?
JLPT 2008 Cream Puffed? - kfmfe04 - 2008-12-08
There are lots of no-shows: I estimate 15-20% in my classroom of 145 seats for 2kyu.
JLPT 2008 Cream Puffed? - captal - 2008-12-08
Can't say I understand paying 5500 yen and then not showing up... but to each their own. Seemed pretty similar worldwide- about 10% no-show.
My classroom had one seat empty but then the girl showed up 5 minutes into the first test
My favorite part of the test was when it says not to open the test booklet (開けってはいけません) and 5 or 6 people opened their book as soon as they got it while the other 40+ people sat there patiently. The proctors didn't seem to care- the only card they gave out was to the guy next to me whose cell phone went off during the first section.
JLPT 2008 Cream Puffed? - erlog - 2008-12-08
My classroom was full up with about 60 people. They all showed up. I heard from friends in other rooms that there was a large group of people disregarding all the rules about not opening the test booklets early. Luckily our registration went through such that I was miraculously sitting next to one of my best friends from my home university. Our numbers weren't next to each other, but they were exactly far enough apart to sit us directly next to each other in adjacent rows.
I also heard of 1 or 2 people out of our group of about 8 that signed up but then never showed up. I don't understand it either, but who knows. Some people are just kind of flakey. They said they were going to take the test to appease their teachers, but ended up not going.
JLPT 2008 Cream Puffed? - Jawful - 2008-12-08
One of my friends backed out of 4kyu. Not sure why. My room was pretty full. Only saw one empty seat actually. And there were about 2 floors of 2kyu takers. But yeah we had a couple people flipping through the pages as soon as they got them.
Someone on another forum said they were taking it in China, and everyone just opened it and started as soon as they got the booklets. No one waited and the proctors didn't stop them. That was pretty shocking to me actually.
JLPT 2008 Cream Puffed? - kfmfe04 - 2008-12-08
Jawful Wrote:Someone on another forum said they were taking it in China, and everyone just opened it and started as soon as they got the booklets. No one waited and the proctors didn't stop them. That was pretty shocking to me actually.That >IS< messed up. There were 4 serious proctors in our room. Once in a while, an old guy in his 70's would come in and check on things (must be the head proctor). Besides the first section which started 1 minute late, all tests were started according to the schedule. This is the proper way to do things as there is still a time period (15 min, but 10 min for listening), where someone can run into the room and actually take the test after it has started: it is written on the postcard sent to us. No one actually did this, but the way Japanese tend to do things to the letter, I would bet that if someone had run in 9 min late, they would let them take the test!
JLPT 2008 Cream Puffed? - erlog - 2008-12-08
I graded my test. I got around 53% on Vocab, 60% on Reading/Grammar, and 66% on Listening. This puts me right smack dab at 60%. Yay, sooo I either passed or I didn't pass. Awesome.
JLPT 2008 Cream Puffed? - phauna - 2008-12-08
You call them proctors? We call them invigilators.
JLPT 2008 Cream Puffed? - Jarvik7 - 2008-12-08
phauna Wrote:You call them proctors? We call them invigilators.Their name tags actually said "Proctor" on them...
JLPT 2008 Cream Puffed? - haabaato - 2008-12-08
Took ikkyuu.
Graded my test and it looks like I got 73/90 on 漢字・語彙、 (85-100)/120 on 読解・文法, (15-20) on 聴解. Worst case situation: I fail by 1.5 points. ONE POINT FIVE POINTS. I will go postal if that is the case. I'm not too sure on a couple of the reading questions since I spent a while bouncing between one of two answers for a bunch of them.
(By the way, at least three answers are wrong in that link for the grammar section. #42 should be かわきりに, #46 is いえよう、#50's answers are duplicates of #51's. I confirmed this with my trainer and with a Japanese teacher.)
Anyway, since you guys are all explaining background, I might as well tell you what it took for me to almost pass 1 kyuu. 1 year of J-class, senior year of college -> 2 months of Heisig before entering my company -> 1.5 months of 8 hour a day Japanese language training (would have been more effective if it was maybe 4 hours a day, but that's another story) -> another one and a half years before taking this test, where in that time, I used Anki to learn words I picked up through conversation. I didn't start putting JLPT content until a month or two before the test, and even then, I was quite inefficient. Obviously living in Japan did not help me on listening
.If interested in more details, lemme know!
JLPT 2008 Cream Puffed? - kfmfe04 - 2008-12-08
haabaato Wrote:ONE POINT FIVE POINTS.DAMN!
Was this result close to what you were getting on old practice tests?
JLPT 2008 Cream Puffed? - Jasta - 2008-12-08
Thanks for the link to the results. They sure are fast.
I graded thetest and it confirmed what my feeling was: vocab 61%, listening a meagre 48% and reading/grammar 55%. That makes my overall score around 55%. Time to start studying again.
JLPT 2008 Cream Puffed? - johnzep - 2008-12-08
I wrote out my answers as best I could remember and scored the test. I'm right on the borderline There were a few problems where I didn't remember my answer...The questions where I didn't remember my answer were problems I didn't really get...so I counted them as wrong, trying to err on the side of being strict.
Doing that, I got a 72 on the Kanji vocab, a 108 on the Reading/grammar and a 51 on listening...for a grand total of 232. But hopefully some of my questionable answers will turn out to be correct and push me over the edge. I think I can narrow my score into the range of 58-62%.
My listening was 20 points lower than all my practice tests...which I'm going to blame on 1) The speakers...loud enough, but with very, very slight distortion 2) Noise - they are so strict about cell phones ringing, etc...but you can make as much noise as you want turning the pages...every we moved to the next page, I had to strain to hear the beginning of the next question over the rustling of 300 test booklets 3) the section with pictures did seem a little harder and I was probably more nervous too.
JLPT 2008 Cream Puffed? - haabaato - 2008-12-08
kfmfe04 Wrote:I only did two practice tests, one before I started my after-work lessons, then another over the last two weeks. Didn't go back to check my answers and managed a 66%, so I figured more concentration on the test would get me lucky. I didn't count on the listening being that profoundly difficult...crescent moon? Why would I know that unless I'm a Sailor Moon otaku?haabaato Wrote:ONE POINT FIVE POINTS.DAMN!
Was this result close to what you were getting on old practice tests?
JLPT 2008 Cream Puffed? - uberstuber - 2008-12-08
Why do you know it in English?
JLPT 2008 Cream Puffed? - Jarvik7 - 2008-12-08
haabaato Wrote:crescent moon? Why would I know that unless I'm a Sailor Moon otaku?三日月? It's really common in song lyrics & titles.. That's where I learned it from.
JLPT 2008 Cream Puffed? - PrettyKitty - 2008-12-08
Quote:Why do you know it in English?Because he watched his Sailor Moon dubbed, of course.
JLPT 2008 Cream Puffed? - haabaato - 2008-12-08
PrettyKitty Wrote:Duh, that was my first exposure to Japanese culture. Incidentally, it's insulting to call someone chibi, as I found out at a gokon. :lol:Quote:Why do you know it in English?Because he watched his Sailor Moon dubbed, of course.
Another word I didn't know came up in two questions, 濁る.
Do you guys think the reading section will ever be posted? Why didn't they steal the whole test? Time to hit up my Chinese friends...
JLPT 2008 Cream Puffed? - Jarvik7 - 2008-12-08
haabaato Wrote:It depends on the person and on how you say it. I call my girlfriend chibi all the time, and tease some of my other (girl) friends who are short.PrettyKitty Wrote:Incidentally, it's insulting to call someone chibi, as I found out at a gokon. :lol:Quote:Why do you know it in English?Because he watched his Sailor Moon dubbed, of course.
You wouldn't call a person you just met chibi though.
JLPT 2008 Cream Puffed? - Jawful - 2008-12-08
Jarvik7 Wrote:But that just applies to social interaction in general. I mean, I call my friends idiots to their face all the time but it's still an insulting word.haabaato Wrote:It depends on the person and on how you say it. I call my girlfriend chibi all the time, and tease some of my other (girl) friends who are short.PrettyKitty Wrote:Because he watched his Sailor Moon dubbed, of course.Incidentally, it's insulting to call someone chibi, as I found out at a gokon. :lol:
You wouldn't call a person you just met chibi though.
JLPT 2008 Cream Puffed? - kfmfe04 - 2008-12-08
haabaato Wrote:Another word I didn't know came up in two questions, 濁る.Doh! I was just typing this one into a SRS this morning.
濁る 「にごる」 - to get muddy
even though the Heisig keyword was VOICED - go figure...
JLPT 2008 Cream Puffed? - uberstuber - 2008-12-08
kfmfe04 Wrote:Doh! I was just typing this one into a SRS this morning.VOICED refers to changing consonants with the two dashes or the small circle (濁点 and 半濁点 respectively)
濁る 「にごる」 - to get muddy
even though the Heisig keyword was VOICED - go figure...
JLPT 2008 Cream Puffed? - haabaato - 2008-12-08
nest0r Wrote:Yea, you're 'muddying' your consonants? Or something. I think the circle is called 'plosive', not voiced.That would definitely work for JLPT2. But unless they make the JLPT1 more reflective of real life, it might be hard to pass if you don't specifically study for it. A native Japanese speaker friend born in the US took the JLPT before coming here, and he also said he had to learn a lot of new words (and this in addition to taking 4 semesters in college). 振興 for example.
My goal is to take JLPT (never taken it, just aiming straight for JLPT1) next year, after just doing AJATT and not studying for the test specifically at all. Wonder how it'll work out.
The grammar tested on JLPT 1 is pretty useless too unless you plan on reading lots of books. Some I've heard in work conversation, but for the most part, the phrases covered rarely come up in real life.
JLPT 2008 Cream Puffed? - kfmfe04 - 2008-12-08
nest0r Wrote:My goal is to take JLPT (never taken it, just aiming straight for JLPT1) next year, after just doing AJATT and not studying for the test specifically at all. Wonder how it'll work out.Hahaha - good luck!
uberstuber Wrote:VOICED refers to changing consonants with the two dashes or the small circle (濁点 and 半濁点 respectively)Thanks for the explanation, uberstuber.
It's important to learn all the uses/meanings for a Kanji.
JLPT 2008 Cream Puffed? - kfmfe04 - 2008-12-08
haabaato Wrote:The grammar tested on JLPT 1 is pretty useless too unless you plan on reading lots of books. Some I've heard in work conversation, but for the most part, the phrases covered rarely come up in real life.You are probably right that they don't show up in conversation, but I have seen many JLPT1 and JLPT2 constructs show up in reading.