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Best mobile learning tool - vosmiura - 2008-11-09
The new one doesn't make use of that cache, but I don't know how to make it clear the old one automatically.
Best mobile learning tool - Jarvik7 - 2008-11-09
vosmiura Wrote:The new one doesn't make use of that cache, but I don't know how to make it clear the old one automatically.I mean the browser cache of the html, not the database.
Best mobile learning tool - Herbo - 2008-12-16
Bumping this thread to see if there are any new alternatives and what the progress is on the iPhone, iPod Touch, Android or anything else I dont know about.
Best mobile learning tool - Herbo - 2008-12-21
Ive been searching all morning for a couple things and havent been able to find answers so ill post here.
I am very close to buying an iPod Touch 2G as I just cant bring myself to by dead technology with the Zaurus but have a couple questions.
Are there any reviews for iDic (the EPWING Dictionary application)? I looked in the app store and there were none. How good is it?
In iAnki, can it display images and play sounds on my cards?
Can I copy and paste stuff from iDic to anki to make cards yet?
Best mobile learning tool - alyks - 2008-12-21
I was in the same position as you. I was going to put the daijirin 2 on it and then copy the definitions into cards on Anki for a mobile learning tool. But I was told that it can't copy paste, and I couldn't get the daijirin 2 to work, so I decided not to.
Best mobile learning tool - vosmiura - 2008-12-21
Unfortunatly iAnki won't display images or play sounds.
Best mobile learning tool - shakkun - 2008-12-21
You need Ankimini for images and sound, which won't run on a 2g.
iDic does what you expect it to. It reads EPWING files. There's no select/copy so you can't jump between words. It does keep a search history though. Daijirin 2 works fine on mine.
I don't think there are any plans to support inputting cards on Anki. I can't imagine it anyway, it would be fiddly as hell. Not to mention copy+paste is not even on the horizon for some ridiculous reason known only to Apple. If that's a priority you'll be better off with a mini laptop or something.
Best mobile learning tool - Transtic - 2008-12-21
I suppose things will get way better when the Ipod 2G finally gets jailbroken, which is just a matter of time.
Best mobile learning tool - Herbo - 2008-12-21
shakkun Wrote:You need Ankimini for images and sound, which won't run on a 2g.Does anyone know if there is any plans to implement sounds and images in iAnki? If not I would have to get a iPod Touch 1G as it doesnt seem like there is any progress on jailbreaking the 2G.
iDic does what you expect it to. It reads EPWING files. There's no select/copy so you can't jump between words. It does keep a search history though. Daijirin 2 works fine on mine.
I don't think there are any plans to support inputting cards on Anki. I can't imagine it anyway, it would be fiddly as hell. Not to mention copy+paste is not even on the horizon for some ridiculous reason known only to Apple. If that's a priority you'll be better off with a mini laptop or something.
How good is Ankiminis sound and image implementation? I want to use it to review the iKnow sentences I have ripped.
Best mobile learning tool - Jarvik7 - 2008-12-21
There is an official Daijirin in the Japanese appstore now. I don't recall how much it costs though.
Best mobile learning tool - cangy - 2008-12-21
Herbo Wrote:I am very close to buying an iPod Touch 2G as I just cant bring myself to by dead technology with the Zaurus but have a couple questions.if you want a bleeding edge zaurus just run debian unstable
Best mobile learning tool - shakkun - 2008-12-21
Isn't iAnki based on the online client? If so then I'm pretty sure that's getting media at some point so iAnki should too, maybe.
Sound and image is good. It doesn't have any of the sound problems the desktop clients sometimes have. It plays the iKnow sentences with no problem. I have a bunch of cards that are just manga frames and screenshots from things with subs and I can read them fine.
Best mobile learning tool - shakkun - 2008-12-21
Wow it looks like the official Daijirin has word jump. That makes it good enough to replace my denshi jisho. I'd really want to try it first though, and it won't even let my look at it with my Australian iTunes account. Edit: nevermind, that other price was for comparison. It's a lot cheaper than the paper version, 2,500円!
Best mobile learning tool - vosmiura - 2008-12-21
shakkun Wrote:Isn't iAnki based on the online client? If so then I'm pretty sure that's getting media at some point so iAnki should too, maybe.iAnki's independent of the online client, and it doesn't support any media at this time.
Sound and image is good. It doesn't have any of the sound problems the desktop clients sometimes have. It plays the iKnow sentences with no problem. I have a bunch of cards that are just manga frames and screenshots from things with subs and I can read them fine.
I was looking into possibilities for adding media. Image support could be possible but not trivial to sync; and sound support is not possible because the iPhone's browser doesn't support playing sound. So because of those limitations I didn't continue with media support.
Best mobile learning tool - Herbo - 2008-12-21
But if Ankimini can play sound, shouldnt iAnki be able to also? I thought they were basically the same thing but just implemented differently.
Best mobile learning tool - kfmfe04 - 2008-12-21
Jarvik7 Wrote:There is an official Daijirin in the Japanese appstore now. I don't recall how much it costs though.V.nice! Bot it after viewing the youtube demo.
Best mobile learning tool - shakkun - 2008-12-21
Looking more at replacing my Casio XD-GP9700, it seems like there's also a 大辞泉 available. It's not nearly as good looking as the 大辞林 though and instead of word jump you get some lame puzzle games for 2000円. Awesome.
The 研究社 one doesn't have jump either and it's only the 中辞典 version. I'd definitely stick with iDic for that one. A JE dictionary doesn't really need jump anyway. The 大辞泉 lacking it is unfortunate though. There's also a 漢字源 available for approximately way too much money. If it had handwritten input it would be different. I'll have to wait and see.
I'll probably buy a Japanese iTunes card and make a fake account after Christmas and get the 大辞林. I'll post a comparison to the Casio here in case anyone else is interested.
Best mobile learning tool - shakkun - 2008-12-21
Herbo Wrote:But if Ankimini can play sound, shouldnt iAnki be able to also? I thought they were basically the same thing but just implemented differently.Ankimini requires something to support sound which you download from Cydia. Apart from anything else that would be missing on a non jailbroken phone.
Best mobile learning tool - kfmfe04 - 2008-12-21
FYI bot my copy of 大辞林 from the standard US iTunes. Just do a search for 大辞林.
Think it was $21.99.
Best mobile learning tool - shakkun - 2008-12-21
Yeah I get no results. I tried following the link directly from here and I got "the item you've requested is not currently available in the Australian store". Harsh.
Best mobile learning tool - Herbo - 2008-12-21
So despite the slower processor, lack of internal speaker and the other nice little upgrades if we want sound on Anki - we need the iPod Touch 1G right?
Best mobile learning tool - shakkun - 2008-12-21
Yes. Or an iPhone.
Best mobile learning tool - kfmfe04 - 2008-12-21
shakkun Wrote:Yeah I get no results. I tried following the link directly from here and I got "the item you've requested is not currently available in the Australian store". Harsh.That's too bad. 大辞林 is fantastic - if it could read in an e-book, it'd be perfect.
Best mobile learning tool - vosmiura - 2008-12-21
Herbo Wrote:But if Ankimini can play sound, shouldnt iAnki be able to also? I thought they were basically the same thing but just implemented differently.Sorry but no. The non-Jailbroken iPhone/iPod Touch are restrictive; that's why you can't run Ankimini on them.
Since I couldn't run Ankimini on my iPod Touch 2G, I made iAnki which uses various hacks to make it possible to review Anki on non-Jailbroken systems, but there are some restrictions that can't be hacked around, like playing audio.
Best mobile learning tool - Herbo - 2008-12-21
vosmiura Wrote:Well you did a good job regardless. Thankyou for the hard work. Ill need to think about this for a few days.Herbo Wrote:But if Ankimini can play sound, shouldnt iAnki be able to also? I thought they were basically the same thing but just implemented differently.Sorry but no. The non-Jailbroken iPhone/iPod Touch are restrictive; that's why you can't run Ankimini on them.
Since I couldn't run Ankimini on my iPod Touch 2G, I made iAnki which uses various hacks to make it possible to review Anki on non-Jailbroken systems, but there are some restrictions that can't be hacked around, like playing audio.