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Japanese keyboard - Pauline - 2010-03-07

liosama Wrote:From other places I read up on Dvorak it didn't offer that much of an advantage to nerds like me. I practically live on the computer, my WPM is, according to (Get ready for some E-Penis)
http://www.typeonline.co.uk/typingspeed.php

http://www.typeonline.co.uk/typingspeed.php Wrote:Your speed was: 100wpm.

Congratulations! You made no mistakes, practice does make perfect.
I hit about 70WPM when it comes to stuff with numbers. Since I'm a complete nerd and I type insanely fast, I have so far, had no troubles with RSI considering how many games I play on the computer and how often I'm here on IRC, chatting, gaming, studying. I've yet to be convinced that it would be of much help at all to people who are already proficient on QWERTY keyboards.
I think the greatest difference is comfort; it just feels better to me when all vowels and other high-frequency letters are on the home row.


Japanese keyboard - ocircle - 2010-03-07

One nice thing about Dvorak is that if you live with someone, the other person won't be able to use your computer since the keyboard is "all wrong".


Japanese keyboard - Jarvik7 - 2010-03-07

..or you could just require a password when waking the computer from sleep/screensaver.


Japanese keyboard - Umikuma - 2010-03-07

I learned Dvorak on a standard keyboard. The kids hated it because that's how the computer would boot up. Worked well for me. I have to use Qwerty at work though so I've drifted back to using it at home as well.

I use a standard keyboard for Japanese, but have Windows convert it to a kana keyboard for Japanese. It's actually pretty quick once you get used to it. I bought transparent kana keyboard labels and have applied them to my desktop, laptop, and netbook. The stickers are available from a lot of places online.

A quick search yields:

$2 - http://www.amazon.com/JAPANESE-HIRAGANA-LETTERING-TRANSPARENT-BACKGROUND/dp/B0037XCWH6?tag=yes2-20

$6 - http://www.4keyboard.com/index.php?main_page=advanced_search_result&search_in_description=1&zenid=50175352d95025c37cad3dcd78b05368&keyword=japanese

$9+ - http://www.latkey.com/keyboard_stickers.asp?SubCat=49

$10 - http://www.amazon.com/Japanese-Keyboard-Stickers-Overlays-Characters/dp/B001R2QHOS/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&s=electronics&qid=1267982851&sr=8-1

$12 (Lexan) - http://www.datacal.com/p-287-japanese-hiragana-keyboard-labels.aspx


Japanese keyboard - kainzero - 2010-03-07

I had a friend who kept bragging about how he used DVORAK because the world's fastest typist uses it.

When I asked him about his speed, it was 80wpm, whereas I type in 100 on QWERTY. Maybe one day he'll eclipse me, but even then, I find it pretty unnecessary to type super fast anyway.

When I went to Japan, I had to use those Japanese keyboards and yeah, the punctuation is all different. I was wondering why my password didn't work, since I was always taught to use secure passwords with letters, numbers, and symbols. It really throws you off.


Japanese keyboard - ta12121 - 2010-03-07

Hmmm i was thinking of purchasing a Japanese keyboard. So much easier for kana input. Or just take the cheaper option. But a new keyboard and get stickers and insert them manually.


Japanese keyboard - JimmySeal - 2010-03-07

I know this thread was started a long time ago and recently resurrected for a topic unrelated to OP, but I want to reiterate that if you're thinking of getting a computer with a Japanese keyboard, DON'T DO IT, THERE'S NO POINT.

I say this because I suffered a recent lapse of judgement and ordered a laptop with a Japanese keyboard when I could have got a US keyboard at no additional cost. As has already been stated:
- You won't use the kana features; almost nobody does
- The spacebar is shrunken and the backspace is tiny and relegated to the farthest reaches of the keyboard
- These characters that are central to typing English or doing software development (I do both) are in unfamiliar and/or hard to reach places: " ' & @ = + * : _ |


Japanese keyboard - nest0r - 2010-03-08

liosama Wrote:From other places I read up on Dvorak it didn't offer that much of an advantage to nerds like me. I practically live on the computer, my WPM is, according to (Get ready for some E-Penis)
http://www.typeonline.co.uk/typingspeed.php

http://www.typeonline.co.uk/typingspeed.php Wrote:Your speed was: 100wpm.

Congratulations! You made no mistakes, practice does make perfect.
I hit about 70WPM when it comes to stuff with numbers. Since I'm a complete nerd and I type insanely fast, I have so far, had no troubles with RSI considering how many games I play on the computer and how often I'm here on IRC, chatting, gaming, studying. I've yet to be convinced that it would be of much help at all to people who are already proficient on QWERTY keyboards.
Your speed was: 102wpm.

Congratulations! You made no mistakes, practice does make perfect.

Next time I'll type with both hands! One of these days I might try to learn the home keys, as well.

What, you don't have to click on the 'type here' area after clicking 'Start'? I could've saved precious milliseconds!

Damn, that thing's addictive. Got over-excited and dropped to the 90s a couple times. Just got 106wpm, but I made one mistake (doorsteps instead of doorstep). Bah. It's odd, my typing is 'off' now after those tests.

Just took it one-handed (not telling which hand, although that could be important, isn't one side of the keyboard more likely to contain the most words?), twice. 32wpm w/ 2 errors and 36wpm w/ 1 error, respectively.

I don't know about this test, but I wonder at the accuracy of online typing tests in general (as with online IQ tests--don't get me started on IQ). At the least I think they're inflated, I seem to recall in the past getting well beyond a hundred wpm and rolling my eyes. They probably do it to inflate egos and spread the meme through bragging and competition. ;p


Japanese keyboard - Nukemarine - 2010-03-08

I learned Dvorak only because it made sense to me. I could already type at a good pace with Qwerty, and it took about 6 weeks to build back up to that pace after I switched.

I still think typing in Japanese is best with a Dvorak though. The even paced switching between both hands makes for fluid typing in my opinion. Given that, I wonder what are the most common romaji letters? For us, it's T and E but that may not be the case with Japanese romaji.


Japanese keyboard - yudantaiteki - 2010-03-08

I'm pretty sure all 5 vowels would be the most common, then I would guess "y" next, probably followed by s, n, t (assuming you're using 日本式 romaji), and k...maybe?


Japanese keyboard - Jarvik7 - 2010-03-08

Quote:Your speed was: 2620wpm.

Congratulations! You made no mistakes, practice does make perfect.
Copy & paste ftw


Japanese keyboard - JimmySeal - 2010-03-08

Pfft. 2620? Amateurs...


Your speed was: 4296wpm.

Congratulations! You made no mistakes, practice does make perfect.

Edit: Got 7702 on my second try.


Japanese keyboard - Jarvik7 - 2010-03-08

Your speed was: 10560wpm.


Japanese keyboard - ruiner - 2010-03-08

Pfft, these are funny, but nowhere near as amusing as these: http://www.answerbag.com/q_view/71963

"Actually, I can maintain a wpm of 6 billion words per millisecond. When I type, my keyboard literally disintegrates. At this very moment, I'm typing on thousands of new keyboards which I buy every single minute to support my typing speed. One day, I'll get a keyboard that can resist melting.

Note: This message took only .001 nanoseconds to type."

"6 billion words per millisecond. Ppfff. When I type my fingers move so fast, I actually time travel. This message is coming 6 months prior to the original question being thought. I used to do data entry for this one firm, and had to quit because my job created a serious moral quandary. I have a ethical obligation not to go back in time and alter the past as I do not know the consequences it may have on the future. I once went back in time to pick some winning lottery tickets, and the library of Alexandria vanished, weird stuff."

"When I type I generate air circulation that gives comarable lift to a rocket jet pack - I had a custom keyboard harness made to keep on me because once I got about 10 feet off the ground without the keyboard I'd fall back down - I could soar with the birds and through the mountain tops. It was very risky though because one time I was eating ice cream with one hand and typing with the other in mid air and had a brain freeze that sent me pummeling into the top of a water tower, not only did I break my fingers that day, but I broke my heart. Now I just have the story to re-live in memory and tell to all of you, it was magnificent."

"you are all liars 6 biliion words per a minute my but"


Japanese keyboard - Smackle - 2010-03-08

I typed 82 wpm with 1 mistake. I feel sad.


Japanese keyboard - liosama - 2010-03-13

nest0r Wrote:Just took it one-handed (not telling which hand, although that could be important, isn't one side of the keyboard more likely to contain the most words?)
More like, "isn't one hand more likely to be *better* than the other" ? Smile Be honest matey Smile I think the left hand would be better than the right for most right handed males, as the wrist muscles accumulated over many years of videos would cause slightly greater resistance.
nest0r Wrote:I don't know about this test, but I wonder at the accuracy of online typing tests in general (as with online IQ tests--don't get me started on IQ). At the least I think they're inflated, I seem to recall in the past getting well beyond a hundred wpm and rolling my eyes. They probably do it to inflate egos and spread the meme through bragging and competition. ;p
Try taking the alpha-numeric tests. They may give you lower WPM figures if that's what you really want. I think all typing tests are good, so long as whoever you're comparing are both using the same typing test. IQ tests are stupid. I wanted to start a type-speed competition in my elec eng faculty at uni but I was called a nerd and no one was interested. I should have tried with the computer science guys, they would have accepted for sure.


Japanese keyboard - nest0r - 2010-03-13

liosama Wrote:
nest0r Wrote:Just took it one-handed (not telling which hand, although that could be important, isn't one side of the keyboard more likely to contain the most words?)
More like, "isn't one hand more likely to be *better* than the other" ? Smile Be honest matey Smile I think the left hand would be better than the right for most right handed males, as the wrist muscles accumulated over many years of videos would cause slightly greater resistance.
nest0r Wrote:I don't know about this test, but I wonder at the accuracy of online typing tests in general (as with online IQ tests--don't get me started on IQ). At the least I think they're inflated, I seem to recall in the past getting well beyond a hundred wpm and rolling my eyes. They probably do it to inflate egos and spread the meme through bragging and competition. ;p
Try taking the alpha-numeric tests. They may give you lower WPM figures if that's what you really want. I think all typing tests are good, so long as whoever you're comparing are both using the same typing test. IQ tests are stupid. I wanted to start a type-speed competition in my elec eng faculty at uni but I was called a nerd and no one was interested. I should have tried with the computer science guys, they would have accepted for sure.
Oh I forgot, not everyone was born or trained themselves to be ambidextrous. Ho hum. But yeah actually, I think one side of the QWERTY keyboard can type more words than the other side, so you'd have less distance to travel or something. ;p

I'm rusty, alphanumerically, so it'd be somewhat slower, methinks. Back in the day, I was lightning fast with the number pad!


Japanese keyboard - bebio - 2010-03-13

Your speed was: 51wpm.

You made 1 mistake, your mistake is shown in bold text:

"On an evening in the latter part of May a middle-aged man was walking homeward from SHASTON....."

Darn it.

I did use both hands, but I always had the idea that I could type faster. Guess not.