snispilbor Wrote:In Tae Kim's defense, does anyone know any better word for what Tae calls "gobi"? You're misrepresenting him, he doesn't use "gobi" to mean "particle", he uses it to mean "よ、か、ね、な、ぜ、ぞ" at the end of the sentence. I've never seen any other convenient name for these sentence-ending-thingies, and it's useful to have a name for them.

playadom Wrote:It has a lot of meanings, but I think in this context として means something like "as" or "like".
Something like -- Giving up like there's no hope, or something like that. I could be very wrong here, of course.

The 五 here means that it's a 五段 verb -- it ends in る, so there are two conjugation possibilities.

So you'll have みかぎってinstead of みかぎて, and みかぎります instead of みかぎます。 That might be why the り is there at the end, but I'm not sure about that.

Virtua_Leaf Wrote:ずうずうしく居候をきめこむ

Quote:知事選に立候補する

iSoron Wrote:

Virtua_Leaf Wrote:ずうずうしく居候をきめこむ

Shamelessly assume it's ok to live in somebody's house without paying.

Quote:知事選に立候補する

Make a run / enter the race for governor.

tokyostyle Wrote:This thread pretty much proves that grammar really does matter.

Virtua_Leaf Wrote:Well in these cases it was more the vocab. I thought this 居候 was a person who sponges, not the act of sponging.

PrettyKitty Wrote:You sure it can't mean both?

他人の家に世話になり食べさせてもらうこと。また、その人。食客。

Tobberoth Wrote:

Virtua_Leaf Wrote:Well in these cases it was more the vocab. I thought this 居候 was a person who sponges, not the act of sponging.

You should have checked the word in daijirin on yahoo.co.jp:

"他人の家にただでおいてもらうこと。"
The act of staying at someone elses house for free

nest0r Wrote:I didn't want to start a new thread for this. Why are fruits and animals and plants often written in katakana? This is something that bemuses me.

Well, Google told me that it's because the kanji are rather difficult, but emphasis is often still desired, hence katakana (I guess it's along the same stylizing logic for using it on signs to make words stand out).

Quote:野菜にはってあるなら、野菜を見るだけであって文字は（特にやさいのなまえは）
気にしないと思いますが、お子さんがおつかいされるようなスーパーはわかりやすくかかれて居るようなきがします。


＞＞カタカナとひらがな、どちらがピンときますか？


きゃべつ → キャベツ
にら → このままひらがな


あくまでも個人的な意見です!

Quote:There appears to be some "official" pressure to write biological names in katakana, and this is the standard practice in reference books

alyks Wrote:http://detail.chiebukuro.yahoo.co.jp/qa/question_detail/q1219249727

Quote:きゃべつ → キャベツ

tokyostyle Wrote:

nest0r Wrote:Why are fruits and animals and plants often written in katakana?

In every sense it is easier to read.

Take your favorite fruit kanji and then see when kids learn it and that gives you part of the answer. Then realize how many shoppers there are with poor eye sight and you have a completely different but just as valid reason. The choice between hiragana and katakana are a little more unclear, but one thing I've noticed is that the more "Japanese" the fruit or vegetable the more likely it will be in hiragana.

There are lots of other things written in hirgana in stores too. The part of the animal the meat comes from is never in kanji for example. Also things targeted at kids such as candy and toys usually are as well.

Tobberoth Wrote:

PrettyKitty Wrote:You sure it can't mean both?

他人の家に世話になり食べさせてもらうこと。また、その人。食客。

Of course it can. How does that change anything? If he would have read in the dictionary, he would have seen that it can mean the act just as well as the person.

nest0r Wrote:名脇役 - I'm wondering if I'm correctly understanding the nuance of this as meaning 'known (in a positive way) for its supporting role'--perhaps it even has the kind of tone you might hear in an award show; the original sentence, which I have covered (including the abbreviation for 'cost-performance') is "見た目はシンプル、CPは最高！名脇役ユニクロ！" - from here: http://taf5686.269g.net/article/13853262.html

Jarvik7 Wrote:

nest0r Wrote:名脇役 - I'm wondering if I'm correctly understanding the nuance of this as meaning 'known (in a positive way) for its supporting role'--perhaps it even has the kind of tone you might hear in an award show; the original sentence, which I have covered (including the abbreviation for 'cost-performance') is "見た目はシンプル、CPは最高！名脇役ユニクロ！" - from here: http://taf5686.269g.net/article/13853262.html

Basically yeah. "outstanding supporting actor". In other words, your entire outfit shouldn't be Uniqlo, but their stuff is good to use as one part of an outfit. EVERYONE shops at Uniqlo and their selection is pretty limited so if you wore too much of it it would be obvious.

Virtua_Leaf Wrote:確かに今作は酔うな。

Is this 'I'm certainly not addicted to the latest product' or 'I'm certainly addicted to the latest product, right/agree with me/innit'?

Quote:五〉 見込みがないとしてあきらめる． (派)(～)り

woodwojr Wrote:My interpretation is "there is a future that can't be waited for", deconstructed precisely how you give it. My guess for why ら isn't dropped is because it sounds ugly and awkward if you do.

~J

woodwojr Wrote:Heh, I just introduced the passive because I think it's better style in English. Honestly didn't even realize that I was doing it, as the anthropomorphization of the future seemed so awkward.

(Yes, I do get in a lot of knife-fights with editors, why do you ask?)

~J