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The Discouragement Thread - qwertyytrewq - 2014-02-09
qwertyytrewq Wrote:By the way, I was joking when I said Core 6000 was useless.Perhaps I wasn't joking.
Any else managed to finish Core 6k or 10k?
CONGRATULATIONS! You are now elementary school level!
http://www.kecl.ntt.co.jp/icl/lirg/resources/goitokusei/goi-test.html
小学生レベル: 5千~2万語
中学生レベル: 2万~4万語
高校生レベル: 4万~4万5千語
大学生レベル: 4万5千~5万語
The Discouragement Thread - Danchan - 2014-03-29
Hehe. Yeah that one is a soul crusher. Thing is it that numbers can mislead.
For example, take my partner who is Chinese. She can score 50,000 on that test, which puts her at the level of a Japanese person who has graduated university. Myself? I scored only half that when I took it a year back or so. Who has better Japanese? Actually I do. She has a very powerful passive vocabulary when it comes to hard words written in Kanji, as you might expect, but that doesn't mean she actually knows that many words in Japanese. Not even close.
And in a way, it is a similar thing with Japanese people in general though. A university graduate has a larger vocabulary than a middle-school student. But the gap which emerges is one made more of increasingly rarer words of which an ever greater proportion are what we could call passive vocabulary.
The Discouragement Thread - qwertyytrewq - 2014-04-30
Don't learn Japanese.
Their country is aging and there is a high elderly population.
Their country is dying and their birth rate is low with no immigrants to replace them.
Their country is stagnating and their economy can no longer compete with other countries.
Their country is racist and nationalist so even if you learn Japanese, they'll still hate you (secretly).
Their entertainment is derivative and their music, movies, animation, comic books and video games are boring.
Politicians and business leaders say that we are entering the Asian century. Not quite. It's the Chinese century. Don't make the mistake of putting your hopes in the wrong Asian country.
Like most people, money/job is probably your main incentive for learning a language. You want money? My advice: go learn Chinese.
So stop browsing Reviewing the Kanji and log out. Your next stop: Reviewing the Hanji.
The Discouragement Thread - Sauzer - 2014-04-30
But surely our Chinese overlords will need loyal administrators for the Japan Autonomous Region?
The Discouragement Thread - sholum - 2014-04-30
Sauzer Wrote:But surely our Chinese overlords will need loyal administrators for the Japan Autonomous Region?Considering their history, I'm sure every idea related to 'Japan' and 'Japanese' will be completely destroyed, and those with memory of those things will be held to silence by the law.
Don't learn Japanese; despite the abundance of legally 'grey' material, getting legit media in most of the Western world is incredibly expensive and generally more difficult than getting equivalent Spanish or French materials; heck, you get Spanish material with most cable packages in the US.
The Discouragement Thread - Bokusenou - 2014-04-30
I just looked at the first post, and it's interesting how the purpose of this thread changed completely...
The Discouragement Thread - Sauzer - 2014-04-30
nah, reply #7
johnzep Wrote:So I didn't read this thread...so we post discouragement? Sounds fun!all the way back in the the last decade!
You'll never finish RTK...and only losers study japanese anyways...fatty.
The Discouragement Thread - qwertyytrewq - 2014-05-04
You've studied textbooks and built up vocabulary, but you can still barely read Yotsuba. Even a 5 year old Japanese kid (the manga's main audience) have you, a 20-70 year old adult, beat. To make things worse, you know 1000000 words but you can't look up words like sorya in a dictionary because its not in it. You're expected to know it naturally, whatever that means, according to those who know more than you.
Just give up already.
The Discouragement Thread - Vempele - 2014-05-04
qwertyytrewq Wrote:To make things worse, you know 1000000 words but you can't look up words like sorya in a dictionary because its not in it.Actually, that one seems to be in every dictionary.
The Discouragement Thread - qwertyytrewq - 2014-05-04
Vempele Wrote:Is it? In any case, this guy is having some trouble: http://forum.koohii.com/showthread.php?pid=206660#pid206660qwertyytrewq Wrote:To make things worse, you know 1000000 words but you can't look up words like sorya in a dictionary because its not in it.Actually, that one seems to be in every dictionary.
The Discouragement Thread - qwertyytrewq - 2014-05-08
If you were wondering whether to stop learning Japanese and start learning Chinese, have I got news for you: India has now overtaken Japan as the 3rd largest economy. You're learning for the sake of money and career right? Then cut your losses and give up on Japanese if you haven't already.
The Discouragement Thread - Inny Jan - 2014-05-08
qwertyytrewq Wrote:そりゃVempele Wrote:Is it? In any case, this guy is having some trouble: http://forum.koohii.com/showthread.php?pid=206660#pid206660qwertyytrewq Wrote:To make things worse, you know 1000000 words but you can't look up words like sorya in a dictionary because its not in it.Actually, that one seems to be in every dictionary.
① （連語）
[「それは」の連]
それでは。そりゃあ。「－弱る」「－そうだ」
② （感）
注意を喚起したり、指示したりするときに用いる語。そら。
「－、投げるぞ」
そりゃあ（連語）
[「それは」の連]
「そりゃ」に同じ。「－弱ったな」「－そうかもしれない」