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Practice Kanji While Reading English - New Version of Kanjilish - jaystarkey - 2008-06-04

Hi all,

Thanks to everyone who has supported the extension I made that replaces English words with corresponding Kanji so that you can practice while you read English (or other langauges) when you must.

I've tried to be responsive to user requests, and am happy to announce a new version: https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/7208

New features are: 1) option to replace the entire word with kanji instead of just the first letter, 2) easier editing of the profiles (the files the program uses to decide what words should be replaced with what kanji), 3) new options for how and when the program runs - for example, an always on mode, and 4) compatibility with Firefox 3.

All support will be done through http://kanjilish.mozdev.org so as to not hijack these forums. Feel free to give me a pat on the back here (awww, thanks!), but please submit support requests on that site.

Happy kanji studying!

Practice Kanji While Reading English - New Version of Kanjilish - playadom - 2008-06-04

Well, I just tried it, and it doesn't seem to have gone through yet.

As a FF3 user, I'm very excited to try this!

Practice Kanji While Reading English - New Version of Kanjilish - Ryuujin27 - 2008-06-04

This sounds awesome! I can't wait to get home to try it out!

Just a quick question: Does feature 2 include the ability to decide how many kanji should be used, so ones I don't know yet won't appear? And also, does it work by Heisig frame numbers?

Again, sounds awesome!

Practice Kanji While Reading English - New Version of Kanjilish - raseru - 2008-06-04

Awesome work. You hit just about everything I wanted from this program. I'm loving this new operation mode, with me being able to choose it being on or off for all tabs. I made my own edit to have it on auto default but sometimes I just wasn't in the mood for it or something
I'm also glad to see you implemented it for whole words so I can make it more challenging if I want to, and am currently trying it out. It slows down my reading sometimes but that's a good thing.
Also glad to see it's FF3 compatible with FF3 coming out this month

All in all, great job, this is huge improvement and makes this a much better add-on than before. The only flaw left that I can think of is that it edits stuff where you type in, which can be a minor annoyance when searching thnigs in google, or editing a post. That might not be fixable or might be too complex to fix at least, I'm not sure, I'm no programmer.

Practice Kanji While Reading English - New Version of Kanjilish - Codexus - 2008-06-05

That's a crazy idea! I like it Smile

Practice Kanji While Reading English - New Version of Kanjilish - radical_tyro - 2008-06-05

This is a pretty neat idea and good implementation. I like that this idea doesn't require one to set aside study time or change one's habits, yet may still yield results. It's like getting something for nothing. Thanks jaystarkey Smile

Practice Kanji While Reading English - New Version of Kanjilish - Howdoken - 2008-06-05

Absolutely inspired! Thank you so much

Practice Kanji While Reading English - New Version of Kanjilish - lazar - 2008-06-05

I haven't tried out this new one, but I just got an idea. Is there any way you could add the option for Kanji-lish to implement kanji up to a certain frame number that we designate? That way it could be tailored to each one of our needs Big Grin

Practice Kanji While Reading English - New Version of Kanjilish - krungthep - 2008-06-05

This plug-in is great! I've been using it for a week or so and I'm loving it. I was only wishing that it could replace the whole word instead of the first letter, so I will install the new version right away. Thanks a lot!

I have created a profile with all of 3007 RTK1+3, ordered by Heisig number, so that adding new Kanji as I progress is really simple: I just have to open the heisig3007.xml file, go to the last kanji I have learned, delete from there to the last entry, change the root title of the profile (the first line) to heisigxxxx, save it as heisigxxxx.xml and import it.

Practice Kanji While Reading English - New Version of Kanjilish - jaystarkey - 2008-06-05

krungthep Wrote:delete from there to the last entry
The other thing you could do is just comment out the part of the file you don't need instead of making a whole new one - open the sample file from the preferences menu to see how to comment in .xml files. The actual profile files live in the directory just above the one where the sample file is at, so it should be easy to find.

Practice Kanji While Reading English - New Version of Kanjilish - phauna - 2008-06-05

I'm not sure but does it include the RTK 3 kanji. If not, can we get that put in, pretty please?

Also, everyone should try and comment and rate this plug-in so it gets above the threshold which would make it into a publicly available plug-in.

Practice Kanji While Reading English - New Version of Kanjilish - raseru - 2008-06-05

phauna, look 2 posts above you

Practice Kanji While Reading English - New Version of Kanjilish - lazar - 2008-06-21

Ok, So how exactly do I make it so that it shows only kanji I've learned so far? I opened the sample.xml and honestly, I have no idea what I'm doing haha :/

Practice Kanji While Reading English - New Version of Kanjilish - liosama - 2008-06-29

Wont this get you too used to kanji to keyword
rather than keyword to kanji?

Practice Kanji While Reading English - New Version of Kanjilish - jaystarkey - 2008-06-29

liosama Wrote:Wont this get you too used to kanji to keyword
rather than keyword to kanji?
I wondered the same thing, but so far, so good. Of course, non-RTK profiles don't have this problem as much because each kanji can have multiple words (not just a keyword) so you tend to get an idea of all of the meanings of each kanji.

By the way, thanks for the positive comment, phaunna: http://digg.com/software/Forbes_Why_Firefox_Matters?t=16182725

Practice Kanji While Reading English - New Version of Kanjilish - jaystarkey - 2008-06-29

lazar Wrote:Ok, So how exactly do I make it so that it shows only kanji I've learned so far? I opened the sample.xml and honestly, I have no idea what I'm doing haha :/
Put

<!--

Before the kanji you don't want to use. Then put

-->

after the last kanji (but before </root> )

I suggest using the free version of EmEditor - it handles UTF-8 files no problem, and also knows XML, so your commented section will turn green.

Practice Kanji While Reading English - New Version of Kanjilish - ivoSF - 2008-06-29

interresting i try it out, thanks

Practice Kanji While Reading English - New Version of Kanjilish - liosama - 2008-06-29

jaystarkey Wrote:
liosama Wrote:Wont this get you too used to kanji to keyword
rather than keyword to kanji?
I wondered the same thing, but so far, so good. Of course, non-RTK profiles don't have this problem as much because each kanji can have multiple words (not just a keyword) so you tend to get an idea of all of the meanings of each kanji.
ok i havent tried your program out yet (no time) so im not sure how it all works
but how much more complicated would it write it so that it HIGHLIGHTS a specific keyword to a certain background colour say red (just for the sake of us recognizing it) so once we think of the kanji for it, we draw it in our minds then highlight our mouse of the keyword then see the kanji answer popup?

Practice Kanji While Reading English - New Version of Kanjilish - ivoSF - 2008-07-01

im reading a fantasy e-book with this.
pretty usefull

Practice Kanji While Reading English - New Version of Kanjilish - raseru - 2008-07-01

liosama Wrote:Wont this get you too used to kanji to keyword
rather than keyword to kanji?
Trust me, this is a good thing, in fact, it's better this way (assuming it could work the other way)

This teaches you to identify kanji as you see it, knowing keywords doesn't help nearly as much when you encounter kanji in actual Japanese. If you learn both ways your information is that much stronger.

When I did Heisig and I wrote new kanji and finished for the day, I'd go over them looking at the kanji I wrote and try to guess the keyword and this helped me remember much better. I honestly think if you're not doing something to remember the kanji the other way around too that you're setting yourself up for failure

Practice Kanji While Reading English - New Version of Kanjilish - liosama - 2008-07-01

raseru Wrote:
liosama Wrote:Wont this get you too used to kanji to keyword
rather than keyword to kanji?
Trust me, this is a good thing, in fact, it's better this way (assuming it could work the other way)

This teaches you to identify kanji as you see it, knowing keywords doesn't help nearly as much when you encounter kanji in actual Japanese. If you learn both ways your information is that much stronger.

When I did Heisig and I wrote new kanji and finished for the day, I'd go over them looking at the kanji I wrote and try to guess the keyword and this helped me remember much better. I honestly think if you're not doing something to remember the kanji the other way around too that you're setting yourself up for failure
Yeah actually i realized this today while signing up to some random jp site, i looked at a kanji it had King and see, and im like wtf does the king see, yet had i seen the keyword "present" i would have been like, ahh yeah, king sees the present not future/past.Put me in for a scare so ill give this a go hehe

Practice Kanji While Reading English - New Version of Kanjilish - vosmiura - 2008-07-01

I love it.

I see it matches multiple words too like "翌he following". Smile

Practice Kanji While Reading English - New Version of Kanjilish - jaystarkey - 2008-07-07

Good news! The extension has been moved out of the "experimental" area, and into the mainstream area. Now you don't have to login for download (although a positive review if you find it helpful is still appreciated!).

https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/7208

Practice Kanji While Reading English - New Version of Kanjilish - cangy - 2008-07-08

jaystarkey Wrote:New features are: 1) option to replace the entire word with kanji instead of just the first letter
That's pretty 甘! It would be 助ful if it 示ed a popup or something for when you are 撃en (though you 可 always 使 rikaichan). Also, it seems to 剖 語s 以 the apostrophe 字, which 吾 存 is the 右 物 to 為 for '"s," but 勿 for 略s like "着't" 等. 吾'd 愛 to 見 it 応 a stemming 芸 to 各 語 先 kanji 代ion then 加ing the 語 終ing 裏 on.

Practice Kanji While Reading English - New Version of Kanjilish - zazen666 - 2008-09-25

ivoSF Wrote:im reading a fantasy e-book with this.
pretty usefull
what ebook?