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Books/links on handwriting - Biene - 2008-05-08

Let's start a new thread on books or links that might help with improving ones kanji/kana handwriting.

Splic42 posted two nice reviews in this thread:

splice4 Wrote:I recently picked up a few nice books that are sure to help with handwriting for Japanese.

ボールペン字書き込み練習帳 (Writing characters with a ball pen Workbook)

This book takes you through Hiragana, Katakana, Kanji and the western alphabet. The style used is block script (kaisho). You can take a look inside the book using Amazon's feature on the page above. For every character, there is a model to follow and a few squares to practice with. The first practice square has a soft outline of the character to trace over, the others are blank. I highly recommend making photocopies and using those for practice. The squares have guides which split it in 4 smaller squares making it easier to see the balance of the characters. There are a few notes indicating particular points for each character (ie "this aligns on the left", "this is smaller", "these strokes do not touch", etc) which can be very useful. There are also small guide lines and circles indicating the appropriate amount of space between components, how the character aligns and so on.

The book first takes through single Hiragana characters, then combinations written horizontally and vertically. This helps you see how the spacing and sizing of characters works in practice. This is followed by the same process for katakana characters. Both the alphabets take up about a sixth of the book.

The rest of the workbook is mostly dedicated to kanji. The first part takes you through a variety of radicals which you practice through a few characters containing it. The model is the same as previous, with an example of the character, a practice square with a faint outline, and a blank square. There are 94 different radicals to practice, each with 3-4 characters. Following this are kanji compounds written vertically and horizontally.

After the kanji come arabic numerals, with practice sheets for plain numerals, dates, japanese numbers and so on. A few pages of western alphabet practice follow. Finally there are a number of worksheets to practice writing sentences, paragraphs, and there are even models of letters, envelopes, business cards and even a resume. 127 pages.

やわらか楷書」で書くペン字練習帳―書き込み式 (Writing soft block script characters with a ball pen Workbook

This is a similar book, but it instead takes you through a more cursive script (yawaraka kaisho). It is a very similar in format to the previous book. You will see hiragana, katana, kanji, western alphabet, and models for letters, envelopes, and so on. The kanji section is arranged slightly differently; you first see the 8 different types of strokes, illustrated by that old standby of calligraphy students, ei/永. Then there are a few characters to practice for each type of stroke. Following that, there are worksheets dedicated to radicals, 71 different radicals in all. The rest is very much like the previous book, with kanji compounds of increasing length, written horizontally and vertically.

There is also some talk of brush strokes and even some brush practice at the back.

I also have two other books, one covering brush pen only and another mostly dedicated to templates and with a short section on gyosho. All in all I believe the two above are the best for people who would like to improve their handwriting without going to calligraphy classes, which may mostly be focused on brush and art rather than pens and day-to-day writing.

As for the diference between scripts, there are three main families: kaisho/楷書, gyosho/行書 and sousho/草書. The two books above fall in the 楷書 category; the second is a more cursive font but not 行書.

I really like scout's writing, although if the books I have are any basis, none of it is 草書. Some transformations that happen with that script are mindboggling. I may post some pictures later.



Books/links on handwriting - Biene - 2008-05-08

Now then, has anyone tried this (ポケットペン字字典) book and can tell me how good/useful/useless it is?

I finally decided to seriously work on my handwriting and apart from the two books splice42 reviewed I'm also be looking for a book that gives some examples for the kanji in the different styles. The above mentioned book is supposed to give for every kanji (joyo-kanji?) two 行書 examples and one 草書. There is no feature to look-inside at amazon.jp for this book, hence this question.

Or would it be more advisable to work with the practice books and then play round with different fonts available for the computer? But then how do I tell if it's a good font or a bad font, or when a kanji in a good font is not so well done? Note, my Japanese abilities are still near to nil.

@splice42, I'd still be interested in the scanned examples. Wink


Books/links on handwriting - Floatingweed5 - 2008-05-08

There are 2 or 3 pieces of software for Nintendo DS that teach calligraphy or focus on improving character writing. I can't remember the names right now, but they may be a good supplement. The one I played with had quite impressive analytical features, highlighting errors and showing you how to correct your mistakes.

EDIT: Found a link to a review of one of them...

http://naruhodojapan.blogspot.com/2008/03/brush-up-on-your-brush-strokes.html

http://www.nintendo.co.jp/ds/avmj/


Books/links on handwriting - Delina - 2008-06-19

http://penji.net has many practice pages online, starting with hiragana and katakana. There are also sections that include how to write the names of all the prefectures, kanji having to do with numbers and time, greetings and closings for correspondence, and several sample letters for tracing.

It doesn't seem to be nearly as comprehensive as the books, but it's free! There are also printable practice sheets.

Also, this is a brief but somewhat amusing blog about a Japanese guy trying to improve his terrible handwriting:

http://penji.blog.shinobi.jp/


Books/links on handwriting - ajishiosean - 2008-06-19

I can vouch for the ボールペン字書き込み練習帳 book, I bought a copy a few months ago and have been working through it bit by bit.

The reason I bought it was I was looking at my handwriting, and was thinking about how it was, well, not so great. Handwriting has always been one of my weak points -- I was bad at handwriting and math in elementary school, but my mom just said, "we'd better work on your math. As for handwriting, well, I guess you'll just end up a doctor."

I showed my girlfriend, who has great handwriting, my handwriting and asked her what level it looked like. She paused for a second and said, "third grade." So with that, I bought the book and started practicing. It was a huge help -- within about a month or so, my girlfriend said my handwriting now looked like a first year middle school student's.

Now here's the problem with that, and other books: not enough practice space. For the hiragana/katakana practice, there's only four practice blocks per character -- is that really enough? For me it isn't. So I painstakingly scanned the entire book into PDF format, and I just print out the pages individually as many times as I need.

Obviously the DS software wins out in that regard-- having said that, I almost bought it but ended up not because I'd rather get practice with an actual pen and paper. The difference between a fountain pen and regular pen is big enough (I use both) -- but practicing with a stylus on a touch screen? I'm not so sure about that.


Books/links on handwriting - rich_f - 2008-06-19

I have tried to use kakitori-kun to try to improve my writing... and yeah, even using a full-sized touch pen for the DS doesn't help. It still feels awkward, and I can never manage to make characters on the DS look as good as I can make them look on paper.

One suggestion to the lack of practice pages for the ボールペン字書き込み練習帳 book-- just make your own graph paper. IIRC, I just created a blank table in word, set the boxes at 1.5 cm H x 1.8 cm W, and put dashed lines in the middle of both X and Y axes. You can cram about 10 boxes in a row, I think. It's been a while since I did it, but I created a "master page," then went to the copy shop down the street and had 100 sheets for ~$5-6. Cheaper to do that than to burn through inkjet cartridges.

Naturally, I haven't had time to actually USE it-- I've been too busy with other stuff. But I will get to it soon. I think.


Books/links on handwriting - somukeru - 2008-06-20

Biene Wrote:Let's start a new thread on books or links that might help with improving ones kanji/kana handwriting.

Splic42 posted two nice reviews in this thread:
Sadly when ordering from Amazon.co.jp, the postage is 3 times the cost of the books! Sad


Books/links on handwriting - rich_f - 2008-06-20

If you were in the US, I'd say order from Kinokuniya's New York or West Coast stores, because shipping is dirt cheap in comparison.

I think someone mentioned bk1.co.jp? I think that's the site. All in Japanese, but has better terms for shipping. (I haven't used it myself, tho.)


Books/links on handwriting - ajishiosean - 2008-06-21

Yeah, bk1.jp is the site. They ship via EMS, so the shipping is actually a decent price, and very fast, too.


Books/links on handwriting - Biene - 2008-07-16

Tourne Wrote:Sadly when ordering from Amazon.co.jp, the postage is 3 times the cost of the books! sad
I know what you mean, but I don't think they'll change their "handling charge" soon. So I guess I'll grasp the nettle and order a bunch of books along with the ボールペン字書き込み練習帳 and maybe also the やわらか楷書」で書くペン字練習帳―書き込み式.

@ajishiosean
Do you have pictures of your handwriting before and after you used the course? I'd be interested to see how "third grade" and "first middle school student" look like. Maybe you could show them in the "What does your writing look like"-thread?

While searching the web for free material on calligraphy I came across this site. They have - next to other old materials - scanned-in, handwritten diaries that are from the Edo-period. As far as I can tell, some of the diaries are written in 草書 and 行書. Some of the texts written in 草書 look much more readable and pleasant than others. Maybe these texts/pictures are useful to the more advanced calligraphers here.


Books/links on handwriting - atreya - 2008-10-03

Hmm are there any books on 行書 style and calligraphy ?


Books/links on handwriting - rich_f - 2008-10-03

I'm sure there are plenty of them. Search for 書道 and 行書 together. I haven't found many good ones in English. You'd probably find better examples in Japanese.