(2016-03-18, 10:10 am)rich_f Wrote: For 1, after ようでは, something either contrary to expectations OR critical of the subject ("negative judgments") is talked about. (Have a look at 日本語文型辞典 EN version, p. 665.) Kind of a "If X can't do something like this, then (negative judgment)" sort of thing, which is perfect for this sentence.

としたら (p. 362, since it's #2, already realized condition) is talking about a supposition instead of a judgment, where ようでは is talking more of a judgment than a supposition. としたら has more of a "Since X can't do something like this, then he's probably not going to do it," flavor, so if you tried to shove it into 1, it would sound like "Since X can't do something like this, he's not much of a salesman," which sounds weird. としたら does show the speaker's judgment, but it's more of a "Well, if X hasn't happened, then it's probably not going to" sort of thing, rather than, "If X can't do it, then X sucks" kind of thing. (Because there's no negative or critical opinion expressed in the としたら judgment, just an opinion about what's going to happen next.)

At least that's how I see it.

Quote:としたら (p. 362, since it's #2, already realized condition)

(2016-03-18, 12:22 pm)Vempele Wrote:

Quote:としたら (p. 362, since it's #2, already realized condition)

I disagree. I think it's "<My boss> said, 'Suppose you fail to secure even one order. If that happens, then you're not much of a salesman.'" - it's a completely hypothetical future with no indication that it's likely to happen, which makes it a very weird thing to bring up.

(2016-03-20, 9:04 pm)risu_ Wrote: I had a lot of trouble with the 旅行 question too. I eventually decided on 1 3 4 2 order as in

この旅行で何にもまして良かったことはだれとでもきがるに話せたことだ。

What did you get?

(The fill in the blanks questions are merciless, aren't they?)

(2016-03-24, 10:05 am)PotbellyPig Wrote: As an update, I'm almost finished going through those 12 last sections in Shin Kanzen Master N1 bunpou with tutors.  I'm going to start to take mock tests soon.  I was wondering what is the minimum percentage to get right in each section to pass? Approximately, since I know it's graded on a bit of a curve.  Also what is the overall number you have to hit on the whole test?

(2016-03-24, 2:24 pm)zx573 Wrote: You can lose points for correct answers still as far as I understand (and get points for incorrect answers).

(2016-03-24, 5:52 pm)pm215 Wrote:

(2016-03-24, 2:24 pm)zx573 Wrote: You can lose points for correct answers still as far as I understand (and get points for incorrect answers).

Why do you think that? The Item Response Theory stuff that the JLPT info about scaling refers you to is a pile of maths that I don't really understand, but I wouldn't expect it to result in a correct answer increasing your score or an incorrect answer decreasing it...

Quote:Scaled  scores  are  determined  mathematically  based  on  “answering  patterns”  of  how  examinees  answer  particular  questions  (correctly  or  incorrectly).  For  example,  a  test  consisting  of  10  questions  (items)  has  a  maximum of 1024 answering patterns (210 patterns). For the scaled-score calculation process for the new test, based  on  these  answering  patterns  Japanese-language  proficiency  of  examinees  is  positioned  on  a  scale  between    0    and    60    points    for    one    scoring    section    (0-120    points    for    Language    Knowledge    [Vocabulary/Grammar]・Reading  for  N4  and  N5).  Because  the  maximum  1024  answering  patterns  of  a  test  consisting  of  10  questions  (actual  exams  have  more  questions)  are  categorized  into  61  groups,  scaled  scores  sometimes become identical for different answering patterns. Therefore, scaled scores can be identical for two examinees  even  when  the  number  of  questions  they  correctly  answer  or  their  answering  pattern  does  not  match.