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Learning the Korean language - Wovaki - 2015-11-26
Hello guys!
I've posted a few things here about looking for a Korean forum similar to Kanji Koohii and there has been no luck. But I've also noticed other people posting about Korean.
So I was curious to see how many people on here are learning Korean and maybe if there's enough, we can also get a dedicated board like the "Chinese and Hanzi" board.
RE: Korean Learners? - vonPeterhof - 2015-11-26
I guess I'm learning Korean, although I'm not really focusing on it for now. I try to do one TTMIK grammar lesson per week (currently near the end of unit 5) and gradually un-suspend sentences from Evita's Korean Grammar Sentences deck. I'm of partial Korean descent, so I'm learning Korean as a sort of heritage language, even though hardly anyone in my extended family speaks it with native proficiency (the only ones I'm aware of that are still alive are my grandfather's sister-in-law and her mother). Korean culture doesn't interest me as much as Japanese culture does, but that might change, who knows?
RE: Korean Learners? - dogafincan - 2015-11-26
As I've mentioned in another thread, I also study Korean
(currently doing subs2srs with episodes of 별에서 온 그대). A Korean sub-forum would be more than welcome.
RE: Korean Learners? - ikore - 2015-11-26
Also studying Korean here (although not all that fast). However, I don't think a subforum for it would be active enough to make one. Just look at the forum for Chinese and you'll see it's pretty dead.
RE: Korean Learners? - eslang - 2015-11-27
From what I understand thus far, since I have been lurking in quite a few language(s) forums, and the following is purely my observation and sentiment:
One of the many reasons -- why a few of the Korean forums closed down or went down hill, was that there were too many (just_fill_in_the_blank_for_that_language_forum) bashing going on-and-on, trashing each others native language and so forth.
It drives the others away from using that site, and also it gives the owner/founder a bundle of headaches and heartaches.
Just a suggestion : for starters, I think it would be nice to discuss among the Koohii members who have expressed their interests in learning Korean.
Korean Learning Resources
http://forum.koohii.com/thread-3695.html
RE: Korean Learners? - sholum - 2015-11-27
I'm slightly interested in Korean (only because of a few webcomics I like, though, so it's not much of a priority at all). I haven't even bothered to learn the Hangul yet... At least that much might happen next year.
RE: Korean Learners? - Raschaverak - 2015-11-27
Bah, I believe the title of the thread is ambiguous. Do you mean people who are korean by birth / citizenship / ect. studying japanese, or people who study the korean language?
RE: Learning the Korean language - ファブリス - 2015-11-27
(2015-11-26, 1:42 am)Wovaki Wrote: (...) maybe if there's enough, we can also get a dedicated board like the "Chinese and Hanzi" board.
I don't think there is enough activity for a subforum.
Just renamed the thread, and if it gains some traction we can always make it into a sticky.
That is, feel free to discuss all things Korean in this thread.
RE: Korean Learners? - Wovaki - 2015-11-28
(2015-11-27, 12:29 am)eslang Wrote: From what I understand thus far, since I have been lurking in quite a few language(s) forums, and the following is purely my observation and sentiment:
One of the many reasons -- why a few of the Korean forums closed down or went down hill, was that there were too many (just_fill_in_the_blank_for_that_language_forum) bashing going on-and-on, trashing each others native language and so forth.
It drives the others away from using that site, and also it gives the owner/founder a bundle of headaches and heartaches.
Just a suggestion : for starters, I think it would be nice to discuss among the Koohii members who have expressed their interests in learning Korean.
Korean Learning Resources
http://forum.koohii.com/thread-3695.html
Really? I wonder why people were bashing others native language? I can understand why forum owners were closing them down then. The community here is so good, that's why I was hoping to find a Korean board on Koohii.
Quote:ファブリス
(2015-11-26, 1:42 am)Wovaki Wrote: (...) maybe if there's enough, we can also get a dedicated board like the "Chinese and Hanzi" board.
I don't think there is enough activity for a subforum.
Just renamed the thread, and if it gains some traction we can always make it into a sticky.
That is, feel free to discuss all things Korean in this thread.
I can understand and accept that. I just received quite a few replies when I asked about Korean stuff before, so I was suddenly curious. I love reading all the stories about peoples methods, goals, achievements, etc. and thought it'd be nice to see the same thing for learners of Korean. But I guess whatever is learned and posted here by learners of Japanese can also be applied to any other language.
RE: Korean Learners? - Wovaki - 2015-11-28
(2015-11-26, 3:53 am)dogafincan Wrote: As I've mentioned in another thread, I also study Korean
Oh, nice! I've been wanting to get into studying from media but my Korean isn't good enough for books and such yet and I'm finding it hard to find native Korean materials I'm really interested in. I've got a couple Korean translations of Japanese manga as I like manga, but Korean dramas and pop don't really do anything for me, unfortunately.
That being said, what's your source for subtitles? I'd like to check it out to see if there's anything I'd enjoy. I thought maybe it'd be good to find Korean dubbed anime or movies I already know and love, but it's proving hard to find stuff that's dubbed and not just subbed.
Also, sorry about the ambiguous thread title. D:
RE: Learning the Korean language - sholum - 2015-11-28
Wovaki Wrote:Oh, nice! I've been wanting to get into studying from media but my Korean isn't good enough for books and such yet and I'm finding it hard to find native Korean materials I'm really interested in. I've got a couple Korean translations of Japanese manga as I like manga, but Korean dramas and pop don't really do anything for me, unfortunately.Have you looked at any manhwa? Most of the popular ones I've seen (translated) aren't very interesting to me (romance stories aimed at girls), so the only one I can think of off the top of my head is 'Yureka' (유레카; and no, I still can't read that; the power of copy-paste, yeah?), been a long time since I read any of it though; it got some official translations too, if I remember correctly (if you like studying that way); then there's webcomics like 이런 영웅은 싫어 comic.naver.com/webtoon/list.nhn?titleId=400742
I've read more than that, but I can't think of them off the top of my head, and the one's I remembered, I couldn't find again... It's almost like I can't read Hangul and don't know two words of Korean, lol. Making me feel a lot better about my Japanese, to be honest.
Anyway, the point of this was: there are plenty of stories you might be interested in that come in familiar formats.
RE: Korean Learners? - dogafincan - 2015-11-28
(2015-11-28, 4:59 am)Wovaki Wrote:(2015-11-26, 3:53 am)dogafincan Wrote: As I've mentioned in another thread, I also study Korean
Oh, nice! I've been wanting to get into studying from media but my Korean isn't good enough for books and such yet and I'm finding it hard to find native Korean materials I'm really interested in. I've got a couple Korean translations of Japanese manga as I like manga, but Korean dramas and pop don't really do anything for me, unfortunately.
That being said, what's your source for subtitles? I'd like to check it out to see if there's anything I'd enjoy. I thought maybe it'd be good to find Korean dubbed anime or movies I already know and love, but it's proving hard to find stuff that's dubbed and not just subbed.
Also, sorry about the ambiguous thread title. D:
My source for 별에서 온 그대 subtitles (there are other dramas on there as well): http://blog.naver.com/dr_kisabi. As for popular media, I'm right there with you in that I find most of it quite cheesy; I'd rather read novels and consume more intellectual content, but I do think that in order to be able to do that, one must first expose oneself to a lot of easier content. I would recommend you keep looking for native content that you like, because learning the language without immersing oneself in the culture will be impossible. At first, I cringed constantly while watching dramas, but I kept looking for tolerable ones and the genre started to grow on me. (Still can't stand most of k-pop, but to each his/her own.) If all else fails, perhaps try webtoons or non-drama tv programs. If native content is too difficult, I would consume everything that is available on Talk to me in Korean.
RE: Learning the Korean language - Wovaki - 2015-11-29
(2015-11-28, 6:09 am)sholum Wrote:Wovaki Wrote:Oh, nice! I've been wanting to get into studying from media but my Korean isn't good enough for books and such yet and I'm finding it hard to find native Korean materials I'm really interested in. I've got a couple Korean translations of Japanese manga as I like manga, but Korean dramas and pop don't really do anything for me, unfortunately.Have you looked at any manhwa? Most of the popular ones I've seen (translated) aren't very interesting to me (romance stories aimed at girls), so the only one I can think of off the top of my head is 'Yureka' (유레카; and no, I still can't read that; the power of copy-paste, yeah?), been a long time since I read any of it though; it got some official translations too, if I remember correctly (if you like studying that way); then there's webcomics like 이런 영웅은 싫어 comic.naver.com/webtoon/list.nhn?titleId=400742
I've read more than that, but I can't think of them off the top of my head, and the one's I remembered, I couldn't find again... It's almost like I can't read Hangul and don't know two words of Korean, lol. Making me feel a lot better about my Japanese, to be honest.
Anyway, the point of this was: there are plenty of stories you might be interested in that come in familiar formats.
I tried doing a few searches and asking around for recommended Korean manwha, but couldn't find much. I suppose if I actually put some effort into it, I'll find something. I'm not really at the point where I can understand a lot anyways. But with books, I think it's fine even reading Japanese manga as long as it's translated into Korean. My problem is finding interesting audio I can consume.
My wife and I ordered two copies of a book aimed with a writing style around middle school level. Both books are the same book but one version is Korean and one is English. We're going to go over them together and see how that works. The book we ordered is called Ferals by Jacob Grey (http://www.amazon.com/Ferals-Jacob-Grey/dp/006232103X/ref=sr_1_5?ie=UTF8&qid=1448779713&sr=8-5&keywords=feral).
I'm really interested in fantasy style stuff, so there's tons of Japanese anime/manga to consume. But most Korean media is drama, documentary, or children's stuff.
Thanks for the recommendations though!
RE: Korean Learners? - Wovaki - 2015-11-29
(2015-11-28, 2:31 pm)dogafincan Wrote:(2015-11-28, 4:59 am)Wovaki Wrote:(2015-11-26, 3:53 am)dogafincan Wrote: As I've mentioned in another thread, I also study Korean
Oh, nice! I've been wanting to get into studying from media but my Korean isn't good enough for books and such yet and I'm finding it hard to find native Korean materials I'm really interested in. I've got a couple Korean translations of Japanese manga as I like manga, but Korean dramas and pop don't really do anything for me, unfortunately.
That being said, what's your source for subtitles? I'd like to check it out to see if there's anything I'd enjoy. I thought maybe it'd be good to find Korean dubbed anime or movies I already know and love, but it's proving hard to find stuff that's dubbed and not just subbed.
Also, sorry about the ambiguous thread title. D:
My source for 별에서 온 그대 subtitles (there are other dramas on there as well): http://blog.naver.com/dr_kisabi. As for popular media, I'm right there with you in that I find most of it quite cheesy; I'd rather read novels and consume more intellectual content, but I do think that in order to be able to do that, one must first expose oneself to a lot of easier content. I would recommend you keep looking for native content that you like, because learning the language without immersing oneself in the culture will be impossible. At first, I cringed constantly while watching dramas, but I kept looking for tolerable ones and the genre started to grow on me. (Still can't stand most of k-pop, but to each his/her own.) If all else fails, perhaps try webtoons or non-drama tv programs. If native content is too difficult, I would consume everything that is available on Talk to me in Korean.
Thanks for the link. I'll check it out when I get some time. :p
I agree with you there.
It's just hard for me to feel motivated to watch something I'm not interested in. I've also tried some western media that has Korean translations (Spongebob Squarepants, don't judge me! hahaha). But I can't find any English subtitles. 
I'll have to just give it a try like you said. I'm a little interested in the "historical" dramas. That is, the dramas that are based in ancient Korea. But... it's still a drama. hahaha I'll have to just give it a try.
I'm actually in Korea now and can carry out basic conversations and such. I recently made a huge jump in my conversational Korean, mainly talking with my wife and in-laws in Korean. With that new-found confidence I tried looking a t books and such and was completely lost.
I still have a long long way to go. So I need to start listening to Korean more.I guess I'll have to bite the bullet and just consume any media, even if it's not something I particularly enjoy. Hopefully it'll grow on me like they did for you.