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Study Log - Oniichan - 2012-08-06
I wanted to post this in the 'general discussion' section, but as it seems to be down indefinitely...
About 3 months ago I came to China on a visa hop. Recently, for personal reasons, I've decided to stay. Though I had little intention of studying Mandarin, it has become my top priority, one I am happily taking on now.
My intention is to simply use this thread as a record of my study plan, goals and progress. Occasionally I'll share resources that I've put together (vocab lists, study pages, anki decks, etc.) in the hope that they may be useful to others. All suggestions and criticism are welcome, so long as they are on topic.
My study plan and goals:
1. Finish RSH1 deck
-Change keywords to eliminate conflicts with RTK1/3 and RSH2 [done]
-Edit stories borrowed from RTK and RTH; make new stories [8/7]
-Memorize new hanzi and simplifications using custom webpage and whiteboard [8/9]
-Catch up on keyword>hanzi reviews in Anki [8/12]
Resources:
Custom review web page
RevTH to RevSH workaround
2. Add pinyin to RSH1 stories by any means that work. [8/15]
Possibilities include:
Custom system that breaks pinyin into initial, final and tone
System that breaks down pinyin into Initial+final and tone
Grouping hanzi by reading
Sound radicals
Resources:
Custom mnemonics system
Other systems found online
3. Memorize RSH1 pinyin (1st reading of each character) [9/5]
Drill characters using custom page and whiteboard
Generate Hanzi>Pinyin cards in RSH1 deck and begin reviews
Resources:
Custom review web page
4. Memorize first 2000 words from drama frequency list (87%) using Iversen lists of 5 words (@200/day) [9/19]
Resources:
Iversen's List Wiki http://learnanylanguage.wikia.com/wiki/Word_lists
Drama/Movie Word Frequency list http://expsy.ugent.be/subtlex-ch/
Links to source (research study) http://www.plosone.org/article/info%3Adoi%2F10.1371%2Fjournal.pone.0010729
Anki Deck - Finished! Uploading soon. (Top 10,000 words)
^EDIT: Decks can't be shared on ankiweb as the owner has blocked uploads. I'll look for an alternative way to share the deck.
See this thread for Hanzi breakdown of this list: http://forum.reviewingthehanzi.com/viewtopic.php?pid=179838
5. Read through level 1 of Chinese Breeze graded reader series [9/30]
1st 2 passes - silent shadowing using slow recording
3rd pass - read to a native speaker (probably just a few pages)
4th pass - shadow slow recording
Resources:
Chinese Breeze series http://www.amazon.com/Chengzhi-Chu/e/B005PZUEQK/ref=ntt_athr_dp_pel_2
(Holiday) <-limited anki reviews only
6. Memorize next 4788 words from drama frequency list (95%) using Iversen lists of 5 words (@200/day) [11/4]
7. Lots o' Television (dramas/news/movies/singing shows) [maybe shadow acting?]
Things under consideration:
Breeze Levels 2 & 3
RSH 2 (maybe just add hanzi to RSH 1 deck as I encounter them in my vocab studies)
Vocab -10,000
Karaoke
Basically, I think that television will be one of my most valuable resources for self-studying as EVERYTHING is subtitled word-for-word in Mandarin here. I'm already able to pick out many words when I follow along with subtitles. That's why I think I'll get best results if I nail down hanzi quickly, then proceed with a frequency list based on television.
Study Log - ファブリス - 2012-08-06
Oniichan Wrote:I wanted to post this in the 'general discussion' section, but as it seems to be down indefinitely...Doh, I'll have a look. Probably messed up the .htaccess file.
Study Log - AnnoJourney - 2012-08-07
Where did you get this drama frequency list?
Study Log - Dunki - 2012-08-07
I did not know about the Iverson's method about words list but it is very interesting.
I seconds AnnoJourney for the drama frequency list? (You are talking about words list and not character list?)
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Dunki
Study Log - Oniichan - 2012-08-07
Yes, it's a word frequency list, not a character frequency one. And I'm assuming that the authors of the list meant dramas when they wrote tv. It was generated by linguists studying the suitability of using subtitle files for word frequency studies and used over 6000 titles worth (they claim the split was about 50% tv/50% movies). I'll dig up the link to the paper and post it soon.
EDIT: Check my original post for links to resources
Study Log - Dunki - 2012-08-07
Thanks Oniichan
Edit: Just read the research paper, it's very interesting! Thanks again.
Edit2: I have just dug the list that you have found and it's a freaking awesome words frequency list. Especially the one where all the information are bound up together. Hats off!
Study Log - Oniichan - 2012-08-07
Dunki Wrote:Thanks OniichanNo problem! I'm working on audio now and should have the files in order soon. (There's about 8600 files so far with some duplicates (homonyms). Hopefully they cover most of the first 6800 words I plan to study. An anki deck should be up soon.
BTW, I recall that you finished RSH1/RSH2. I've finished most of the stories for book 1, but haven't even made a scratch in book 2. Could you be enticed to share a csv? There isn't much of a community for RSH review/stories yet... ;-)
Study Log - Dunki - 2012-09-18
Hello Oniichan !
Any news regarding the uploading of your Anki deck related to the top 10k words list?
What is your method to learn those word, I mean your Anki reviews (the design of the models)?
Have you started the Iversen's list method? Is it working as efficiently as expected?
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Dunki