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Hanzi deck tailored to a Japanese speaker - z1bbo - 2015-08-29
I'm currently thinking about starting to learn Mandarin and how to best use my existing Kanji knowledge. I suppose that you can save a great amount of time but just not "relearning" characters with a same/similar meaning, especially since I'm learning readings and nuances through vocabulary anyway.
Which leads to the question whether or not there is a most common xk Hanzi list/deck in which characters that are used with the same meaning in Japanese (and contained within something like the JIS第1+第2水準) are filtered out?
Hanzi deck tailored to a Japanese speaker - dtcamero - 2015-08-29
well as someone who used rtk to learn japanese, and is now studying mandarin having recently finished rth, i'll give my opinion... (i'm learning simplified btw, might study 简体字->繁体字 at a later point)
I think that most characters are different enough that you ought to relearn them altogether as a group. also the meanings are usually different. which is not to say the original rtk meaning doesn't apply, but that it often would become a 2nd or 3rd most common meaning, and there's another that would be more helpful to learn.
having done rtk, straight rth was a breeze... totally new kanji only account for about 1/4. so i found a shared anki deck for rth that included character pronounciations (chinese only has 1 pronounciation for most hanzi) which made redoing the whole process much more useful. that would be my recommendation on how to proceed.
it was hard but super rewarding. now 1 year later i've finished that deck and some others, as well as the NCPR textbooks, and with a little help from a dictionary I can read simple articles with no problem.
Hanzi deck tailored to a Japanese speaker - kapalama - 2015-08-30
Did you already link that deck somewhere?
Also, what did you use as a text. I am starting from zero, playing with iknow.jp (on a free 3 month signup), and simply have no idea where to look for advice.
stuff like IMEs, basic grammar points, etc. I actually don't even care about speaking
Hanzi deck tailored to a Japanese speaker - dtcamero - 2015-08-30
I'm sorry I forgot which deck it was, but there was one that some guy made which matched RTH to character pronunciations for the first book only. And then I found a second deck for the second book and added it to the first.
learn with pinyin as the phonetic system, and use a pinyin keyboard. It's not english but is easy to read... They have a few kana-like phonetic systems, such as bopomofo, but pinyin is used pretty universally.
After finishing rth1 with pronounciations, I used the new chinese practical reader books (there are four I think...) they were pretty good but you may find others you like more. After that I went back and finished RTH 2 and a few small decks.
To practice simple reading there is this very good website called the chairman's Bao, which is like NHK easy, with simplified short articles.
http://www.thechairmansbao.com
And chinese skitter is an awesome way to drill vocabulary. It's a little expensive but with a 1-year subscription isn't unreasonable given the tremendous value... there's nothing else like it.
Also the dictionary Pleco for iPhone is a pretty amazing all in one. Several E-C dictionaries and a C-C dictionary. An OCR, flash card program, speech-to-text voices and more.
And if you benefit from koohii, you should probably frequent chinese-forums.com for similar discussions.
good luck and enjoy chinese!