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success rate - cophnia61 - 2015-07-08

Another question about rtk 1, what is your % of success rate for mature cards and for how much have you reviewed (also say if you do in recognition or production)?

Also, do you think it is conceivable to gain a near 100% rate of success? And after how many years?
What do you think it is a good success rate after let's say one year of review?

success rate - john555 - 2015-07-08

cophnia61 Wrote:Another question about rtk 1, what is your % of success rate for mature cards and for how much have you reviewed (also say if you do in recognition or production)?

Also, do you think it is conceivable to gain a near 100% rate of success? And after how many years?
What do you think it is a good success rate after let's say one year of review?

I finished RTK1 a while ago (at least a year).

I consider success to be, if you show me a kanji, I can tell you the RTK keyword 80%+ of the time. Likewise for if you show me the keyword and ask me to write the kanji.

I use percentages because what I found when I tested myself is that sometimes I got some wrong, then got those right the next time, but got ones wrong that I got right the last time etc.

success rate - RawToast - 2015-07-08

Using Anki users should average around 80% on mature cards, I would assume this site would be similar. If every card was at >=1 year maturity I would expect around 80%.

Usually you will move on to vocab, which will re-enforce the kanji anyway.

success rate - cophnia61 - 2015-07-08

wakatta Big Grin

Thank you all guys!

success rate - anotherjohn - 2015-07-08

Here is the current state of play with my kanji deck, which is by far the hardest, though the time commitment is negligible these days. This is after 2.5 years btw.

I've been pushing for faster reviews the last couple of weeks, getting close to 20/min on these now simply by failing a few more. This is recognition only of course - 20/min production ain't gonna happen Smile

PS I tried various bbcode to resize the image as it's kinda big but nothing worked & there's nothing in the help - is resizing supported?

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success rate - cophnia61 - 2015-07-08

anotherjohn wow great! this will be very useful to me!
it seems you do things in a way similar to mine, could I ask you what you review with this deck? Meaning only or on-yomi too?

success rate - yogert909 - 2015-07-08

cophnia61 Wrote:Another question about rtk 1, what is your % of success rate for mature cards and for how much have you reviewed (also say if you do in recognition or production)?

Also, do you think it is conceivable to gain a near 100% rate of success? And after how many years?
What do you think it is a good success rate after let's say one year of review?

My kanji deck is about the same as anotherjohn's although a bit lower accuracy. I'm getting 93% learning, 90% young, 88% mature for recognition. I added a few hundred cards over a year ago, but recently added 500 new cards a few months ago, so most of my kanji cards are newish.

Btw, It is curious that accuracy goes lower as the interval increases for kanji. It is the opposite relationship for all of my other decks (improving accuracy as cards mature).

success rate - JKS87 - 2015-07-08

I am the same, is that really how retention rates are "supposed" to look? Going from high (learning) to low (mature)? Mine is the complete opposite. Learning is around 80% while mature has never dipped below 95%. I wonder why that is. Granted I'm not doing RTK but I don't see why that should make any difference.

success rate - cophnia61 - 2015-07-09

interesting... what do you evaluate when reviewing? the exact rtk keyword or anything near the general meaning will do it?

success rate - JKS87 - 2015-07-09

I actually quit RTK very early on. Most of my deck is based on a book called Common Japanese Collocations, almost entirely production. I don't pay attention to kanji at all, even grade 1 characters have furigana.

{{c1::noun}}{{c2::particle, verb}}

With the way the book is set up, I end up with several cards for the same noun covering different contexts, so perhaps I'm overlearning. I'm not really complaining though because I don't feel like I can hope for much better than 95% retention on production cards.

success rate - yogert909 - 2015-07-09

JKS87 Wrote:Granted I'm not doing RTK but I don't see why that should make any difference.

It does make a difference for some reason. As I mentioned before, my vocabulary accuracy is similar to what you mention. However kanji is the opposite with accuracy decreasing as cards mature.