(2015-12-06, 10:24 pm)spleenlol Wrote: Does anyone that took the N2 remember this one vocab word?
It was all in katakana and every other character was ン
It was something like ワンチンワンチン although that wasn't it.
I've never seen it before and it really stuck out at me but I can't remember what it was...

(2015-12-07, 10:17 am)Tamba Wrote: The only word on Jisho that matches that pattern is
珍紛漢紛 (チンプンカンプン)
http://jisho.org/search/%3F%E3%83%B3%3F%E3%83%B3%3F%E3%83%B3%3F%E3%83%B3

(2015-12-07, 6:59 am)zx573 Wrote:

(2015-12-07, 6:51 am)kanttuvei Wrote: Thanks for the full link. Should be at least >= 50% from the reading section (9 answers difficult to check because of Chinese-only, so not counting them). So before the final verdict end of next month, I guesstimate 85-100(max) points. Almost pass or almost fail, doesn't really help

Which questions couldn't you check?

(2015-12-07, 1:37 pm)Elidan456 Wrote: If you could help for the following questions I would really appreciate it! 56-62, 69-70, 74-75.

I remember somewhat my answers, but just to make sure...

Vocab and grammar went really well, but the listening was brutal... the first 3 sections felt totally different from what I did before... 

Thank you!

(2015-12-07, 3:59 pm)zx573 Wrote:

(2015-12-07, 1:37 pm)Elidan456 Wrote: If you could help for the following questions I would really appreciate it! 56-62, 69-70, 74-75.

I remember somewhat my answers, but just to make sure...

Vocab and grammar went really well, but the listening was brutal... the first 3 sections felt totally different from what I did before... 

Thank you!

Now, I don't speak Chinese so these will be kind of vague, but:
56: Sorry, I can't remember what the exact text was for this. I remember this one being a no brainer for me when I did the exam since instead of being an essay or reading problem, it was more like a flier and you had to verify what you had to do on what date. You needed to compare the answers with what was written for each date on the flier. It said something like "Check Japanese level on 12/11" and so on. Every answer had a very, very clear error (for example, you can't check your Japanese level on 12/11)  so if you took your time on this you probably got it right.

57: This was the problem about the differences when it comes to food between humans and animals. I can't remember the exact answer from the test, but my friend translated the Chinese text for me and it says something along the lines of "thinking up all kinds of ways in order to make people want to eat" (although now that I think about it, I think the Japanese text said something more along the lines of "Thinking of the different ways that people would want to eat").

58: This was the one about the guy who ran a business and told his managers to leave any work that exceeds their skill levels up to their staff. I think the correct answer was something along the lines of "hire staff of a greater skill level than themselves".

59: This was the question about how people avoid saying some things as to avoid offending others. The correct answer was to "speak your mind clearly".

60: This was the question about teaching methods. It was a 3 part question. This is the first question, and the answer was "people leave out things when they are explaining things that they know".

61: Part 2 of the teaching methods question. I believe (taking a stab based on what I remember from the test and what little I can understand of the Chinese) the answer was something along the lines of "teach them everything up until the end, but let them figure out the last part on their own"

62: The "ある種の職人技" referred to was "being able to adjust your teaching to anyone's level".

69: This was the comparison between A and B and how they viewed the usage of notebooks. 2 part question. A and B both thought it was good to store your thoughts or findings (or something like that, can't remember the exact wording).

70: Part 2 of the previous question. A thought it was fine to write everything in the same notebook, but B thought you should write some things in separate notebooks.

74: This was the question about the father and son. They could only stay until 1pm and wanted to take whatever items they made home with them that day. You needed to add the 待ち時間 at the bottom of the block with the end time of the class to figure out how long it would take to make the item and let it cool. The only options were A (it had no wait time and allowed kids 5 and up) and D (it had a 1 hour wait time, compared to B and C's 2 hour wait times, and it allowed kids 8 and up). So, if I remember correctly, the answer for this was A and D.

75: Part 2 of the previous question. The college student wanted to make something that *wasn't* pottery kind of stuff and also could go that day. Right away you could knock out the ones that had a reservation requirement and also any of the pottery/houseware related stuff, which left you with one potential option, which if I remember correctly, was making a necklace (B).

(2015-12-07, 4:18 pm)Elidan456 Wrote: Wow thanks a lot! 

Got a few questions wrong, #62 for sure and 61# maybe. 

As for #58 Wasn't there a choice where the manager gives the job to an employee when he doesn't know how to do it properly by himself? Can't remember what I wrote.

(2015-12-07, 4:25 pm)zx573 Wrote:

(2015-12-07, 4:18 pm)Elidan456 Wrote: Wow thanks a lot! 

Got a few questions wrong, #62 for sure and 61# maybe. 

As for #58 Wasn't there a choice where the manager gives the job to an employee when he doesn't know how to do it properly by himself? Can't remember what I wrote.

For 61 I originally thought it was "ask a lot of questions to make sure they understand" because right after that it said "理想的な教え方じゃないか？" or something like that, but then it went on to say something like "people would repeat the same things over again", so I looked for another answer.

And for 58 I think I answered 3 which was something like "working together with the staff to achieve higher goals" or something like that? I got that one wrong.

(2015-12-07, 6:42 am)s0apgun Wrote: @Vinster you should definitely come to Japan. I didn't know my listening sucked until I came here and it has improved dramatically. In the end, the JLPT isn't as important as you think. Lots of foreigners living here function with an intermediate level of japanese with no problem and many companys dont know what the JLPT is... they just care that your resume says business level japanese

(2015-12-07, 10:17 am)Tamba Wrote:

(2015-12-06, 10:24 pm)spleenlol Wrote: Does anyone that took the N2 remember this one vocab word?
It was all in katakana and every other character was ン
It was something like ワンチンワンチン although that wasn't it.
I've never seen it before and it really stuck out at me but I can't remember what it was...

The only word on Jisho that matches that pattern is
珍紛漢紛 (チンプンカンプン)
http://jisho.org/search/%3F%E3%83%B3%3F%E3%83%B3%3F%E3%83%B3%3F%E3%83%B3

(2015-12-06, 6:34 pm)zx573 Wrote: みんなお疲れ様～

I feel like the 言語知識・読解 section was a LOT easier than I was expecting. There were a few things that tripped me up, but I feel pretty confident overall that I got a pretty decent score. I finished it in just over 60 minutes, so I spent at least a half hour checking and then double checking everything. Listening, on the other hand... I probably should've asked the proctor to turn up the volume, but it sounded ok during the preview. It became more difficult to focus with the sound of rustling papers and small sounds from other people.

I'm expecting a low score on the listening since I feel like I guessed on half of them. All I need is above 19 points and then I feel pretty confident that I will have passed N2.

How did it go for everyone else?

(2015-12-07, 4:13 pm)rich_f Wrote: My goal right now is to find better (and by better, I mean HARDER) listening/reading material. Seems like NHK news isn't cutting it for me. (I can't believe I just wrote that.)

I need to find some essay collections written by cranky old people who like to use obscure words. And a collection or two of confusing corporate communications would be useful, too.

(2015-12-12, 4:56 pm)bouzunikukerya Wrote: That's called 天声人語 

(2015-12-13, 9:22 pm)dudeshane01 Wrote:

(2015-12-12, 4:56 pm)bouzunikukerya Wrote: That's called 天声人語 

Can you kindly expand on that.
I read about it, it seems to be a article section in Asahi news. (http://www.asahi.com/news/tenseijingo.html)
You mean to say that these news articles are abstract type ?
Will be helpful, please let us know.

(2015-12-14, 7:03 am)zx573 Wrote: @Zgarbas Would you get in trouble if you got caught doing that? I took the N2 for the first time this year and the proctor was really strict during the exam (pretty cool guy during the breaks and explanations, though). And boy did he have his eye on me. He came beside me to make sure I wasn't cheating, and then after that I got yelled at once for fidgeting where he couldn't see my hand.

(2015-12-14, 12:02 pm)bouzunikukerya Wrote:

(2015-12-14, 7:03 am)zx573 Wrote: @Zgarbas Would you get in trouble if you got caught doing that? I took the N2 for the first time this year and the proctor was really strict during the exam (pretty cool guy during the breaks and explanations, though). And boy did he have his eye on me. He came beside me to make sure I wasn't cheating, and then after that I got yelled at once for fidgeting where he couldn't see my hand.

In the US, they insist that you keep your voucher in the upper right hand corner of your desk. I can imagine getting thrown out and having my exam invalidated if I attempted to jot the answers down on the back of it. Not a strategy that I would recommend; better to wait the seven weeks until you get your scores. 

(2015-12-14, 4:41 pm)zx573 Wrote: I'm *still* undecided if I want to take N1 next year (still learning toward probably not taking it so I can focus on listening skills, technical terms for the field I plan on working in, and preparing myself for job interviews and such in Japanese), but I decided to purchase the Living Japanese book that bouzunikukerya linked in another thread. It was really cheap (expedited shipping cost more than the book itself, coming in at $6.99) so if I get any practice out of it then it was worth it. I also plan on going through my N1 vocab Anki deck and I might grab a few books from the 新完全マスター N1 series just to practice with since I liked them a lot for N2. I also downloaded the 聞かせて天声人語 app since I need as much listening practice as I can get.

(2015-12-14, 6:29 pm)gaiaslastlaugh Wrote:

(2015-12-14, 4:41 pm)zx573 Wrote: I'm *still* undecided if I want to take N1 next year (still learning toward probably not taking it so I can focus on listening skills, technical terms for the field I plan on working in, and preparing myself for job interviews and such in Japanese), but I decided to purchase the Living Japanese book that bouzunikukerya linked in another thread. It was really cheap (expedited shipping cost more than the book itself, coming in at $6.99) so if I get any practice out of it then it was worth it. I also plan on going through my N1 vocab Anki deck and I might grab a few books from the 新完全マスター N1 series just to practice with since I liked them a lot for N2. I also downloaded the 聞かせて天声人語 app since I need as much listening practice as I can get.

Let me know how you liked Living Japanese. I'm considering ordering myself after I get through all of the N1 reading and listening materials I have.

(2015-12-14, 6:29 pm)gaiaslastlaugh Wrote: Let me know how you liked Living Japanese. I'm considering ordering myself after I get through all of the N1 reading and listening materials I have.